Featured 2019 Hyundai Kona Electric rated at class-leading 258 miles of range by EPA

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  1. Ashlem

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    Wow, it's nice seeing 200+ mile ranged EV's starting to slowly make its way to the market. Just hope they can build enough of them.

    2019 Hyundai Kona Electric rated at class-leading 258 miles of range by EPA
     
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    How much do they cost?
     
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    The ones I was looking at were hybrids not BEV.
     
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    In the United States only the 64kWh battery version with EPA 258 mile range version will be available. Based on sale prices elsewhere internationally it should be right under $40k MSRP before incentives.
     
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    In this area, Nissan dealer CHAdeMO chargers are locked up outside of business hours. FYI, all of the CCS chargers I've seen also have CHAdeMO.

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    If the Kona was a less bulky/CUV car, probably less battery capacity was needed to achieve the same class leading range...
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    It is always a good practice to go to the source after reading a review:
    Compare Side-by-Side


    model kWh/100 mi MPGe range mi size class motor kW
    1 Hyundai Ioniq (*) 25 136 124 midsize car 88
    2 Tesla Model 3 26 130 310 midsize car 211
    3 Hyundai Kona 28 120 258 small SUV 150
    4 Chevy Bolt 28 119 238 small station wagon 150

    * - Hyundai Ioniq hybrid blue performance, 51.8 MPG, in fuelly.com does not match EPA metrics, 58 MPG.

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    What a surprise... :rolleyes:
     
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    If that's true, still too steep for many car buyers even with tax credit, IMO.
     
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    Which is fine, because it isn't too steep for many others ;)
    No car fits the needs and wants of ALL drivers, and they don't need to.
    The number of people for which a car does 'tick all the boxes' will determine that car's market share. Not the car's value as seen by any one individual.
     
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    I was just surprised to see the MSRP of Kona to be more in line with Model 3, rather than Nissan Leaf. Histricall, Hyundai has tried to match and beat Japanese competitor, namely Prius for hybrid and PHEV arena. I would thought they would try to beat the LEAF's price tag for BEV.
     
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    In some areas only 15% of car sales are for new cars.

    Just something to think about
     
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    The build enough depends on the battery supply
    Hyundai is predicting that CCS will become the dominate one in terms of faster DC charging. I thought the Ioniq Electric had CCS as an option.
    It probably helps that any licensing fees are cheaper.

    Which is why I find the hand wringing over DC charge standard ill conceived.

    If only true car sales weren't dropping.
    The Kona out ranges the new Leaf by 100 miles; the Ioniq Electric is around the same price as it. It surpasses the Bolt's range too, and that car starts at just above $37k.
    Then the price guess here is based on list prices overseas. The Prime's US price is lower in comparison to those markets.
     
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    That maybe... but to purchase a used car, it had to be sold as a new car in the first place.;)
     
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    We don't yet know the MSRP of the 2019 Nissan Leaf that will be comparable and get EPA 200+ mile range. It will likely be closely priced to the 64 kWh battery Hyundai Kona EV.

    If we are comparing to the current 2018 Leaf, we should use the 39.2 kWh Kona (not sold in the U.S.). The 39.2 kWh Kona goes for $31-32k MSRP internationally when converting currencies.
     
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    Thanks for the info. I guess, incremental increase in both range and price for now. Maybe a bit longer wait to see the price of BEV to start dropping, so the average cost of BEV to be equivalent to traditional cars of the same class without any tax credit.
     
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    Purchase price is only part of the cost. BEVs beat traditional cars when it comes to fuel and maintenance costs.
     
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    For some region and people with solar panel, the fuel cost might be lower with EV, but that's not always the case for many places. For me EV and HV cost just about same for PRIME. As for the maintenance cost, I am not so sure either. Certainly many of today's traditional and hybrid vehicles cost very little for maintenance.
     
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