Featured 4-wheel killer?

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  1. PriusV17

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    So this Russian company is coming out with a flying car that runs on hydrogen fuel cells.

    https://scienex.tech/

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    Founded in February 2019, Scienex is a Russian startup in the business of designing and manufacturing safe, small and clean hybrid-electric vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) aircraft for Urban Air Mobility (UAM). In December 2020, it has been reported that Scienex has been working on the Flyter project for two years. The goal for the aircraft design is to fit in an urban environment as an air taxi without having to change any urban infrastructure.

    The Flyter air taxi concept design has been specifically made without any external propellers, so the aircraft can safely fly in a dense urban environment without its propellers hitting buildings, other urban structures, trees or people. The aircraft also has no wings. Flyter can land or take off from any parking space whether it is street parking or from a parking lot.

    The aircraft can hold two passengers, has an estimated cruise speed of 100 km/h (62 mph), a range of 100 km (62 m), a maximum altitude of 1,500 m (4,921 ft) and has a maximum payload of 250 kg (551 lb). The dimensions of the aircraft are 5X2 meters (16 ft, 5 in X 6 ft, 7 in), which is comparable to a SUV or minivan, allowing the aircraft to land almost anywhere in an urban or rural unprepared site.

    It took two years for the company to fine the ideal shape for safety, being compact, highly maneuverable and with high aerodynamic performance. The aircraft is basically a flying fuselage and was nicknamed the flying (bread) loaf and is referred to by its creators as a non-quadcopter. While there are no propellers on the outside of the fuselage, on each side of the aircraft are four large vertical openings for VTOL flight and to stabilize the aircraft for forward flight, and two rear openings for forward flight. The aircraft has four retractable landing legs.

    Some Features Of The Aircraft:

    Operating System: The Flyter aircraft will have its own operating system including autonomous flying, interacting with the passengers by voice control and interacting with third parties (such as flight control and other aircraft)
    Cloud System: A cloud system will allow all systems to interact with each other
    Enterprise resource planning (ERP) system for infrastructure management
    App: The company plans on making a custom mobile app for on demand air taxi service
    Compact size: Fits in a normal-sized parking space
    Ground safety: It will be safe for anyone on the ground due to no external propellers
    Flight safety: Its design will keep the aircraft from being inadvertently moved by gusts of air
    High security: Will have security built into its systems
    Clean energy: No carbon monoxide gases due do being fueled by hydrogen fuel cells
    VTOL: Vertical takeoff and landing aircraft, very useful for urban travel, no runways or vertiports needed
    Long range: Can travel from almost any point to point destination in a major city

    The estimated cost for the aircraft was reported in a December 2020 article to be $200,000 USD (or ₽14.8 million rubles) per aircraft. The final aircraft design will look different than the current VTOL concept design per Scienex.

    Detailed specifications of the aircraft are being kept secret due to its novel VTOL and fuselage design. The company has stated they have flown a sub-scale prototype in the fall of 2020 and expect to test flight a full-scale prototype by May 2021. According to the company, more development details will arrive closer to the summer of 2021, when Scienex is ready to flight test the full-size prototype.

    Specifications:

    Aircraft type: Hybrid-electric VTOL
    Piloting: Autonomous via artificial intelligence
    Capacity: 2 passengers plus luggage
    Cruise speed: 100 km/h (62 mph)
    Maximum speed: 120 km/h (75 mph)
    Normal range: 100 km (62 m)
    Maximum range: 150 km (93 m)
    Maximum altitude: 1,500 m (4,921 ft)
    Maximum payload: 250 kg (551 lb)
    Empty weight: 600 kg (1,323 lb)
    Operating temperature: -20/+40°C (-4/+104°F)
    Propellers: Unknown
    Electric Motors: Unknown
    Power source: Hydrogen fuel cells
    Fuselage: Carbon fiber composite


    Windows: Panoramic windows forward, left, right and top visibility, for spectacular views
    Landing gear: Retractable quad-legged landing gear
    Safety Features: Distributed Electric Propulsion (DEP), provides safety through redundancy for its passengers and/or cargo. DEP means having multiple propellers and motors on the aircraft so if one or more motors or propellers fail, the other working motors and propellers can safely land the aircraft.

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    ya, that'll fly
     
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    Do we have any evidence of this having advanced beyond the wishful thinking stage?
     
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    Looks like it was copied from the superhero movie, The Watchmen

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    Try telling George Jetson and his boy Elroy.
     
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    This is basically a drone with the propellers inside the craft.

    I personally don't see any propeller crafts practical yet. Because who wants dust and dirt to fly all over the people around the craft as it lands or takes off.

    So let us keep dreaming of a true anti gravity 4-wheel killer. (y)

    Notice the hydrogen fuel cell is the most practical for this craft. Probably because of the weight to energy ratio.
     
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    At $200k price tag. It will probably be corporations, governments and wealthy individuals that will be the early adopters. Anyone willing to pay $200k for an exotic sports car, then this will be another toy in the bucket.
     
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    Highly inefficient.

    This is an absolute show-stopper for concepts like this:

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    The tanks are still heavy, and this CGI model can't even go a hundred miles.
     
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    So the US Navy has given us a vague "How to manual" in how to change the gravitational field of an object.

    Patent granted in 2018:

    US10144532B2 - Craft using an inertial mass reduction device - Google Patents

    "It is possible to reduce the inertial mass and hence the gravitational mass, of a system/object in motion, by an abrupt perturbation of the non-linear background of local spacetime (the local vacuum energy state), equivalent to an accelerated excursion far from thermodynamic equilibrium (analogous with symmetry-breaking induced by abrupt changes of state/phase transitions). The physical mechanism which drives this diminution in inertial mass is based on the negative pressure (hence repulsive gravity) exhibited by the polarized local vacuum energy state (local vacuum polarization being achieved by a coupling of accelerated high frequency vibration with accelerated high frequency axial rotation of an electrically charged system/object) in the close proximity of the system/object in question. In other words, inertial mass reduction can be achieved via manipulation of quantum field fluctuations in the local vacuum energy state, in the immediate proximity of the object/system. Therefore it is possible to reduce a craft's inertia, that is, its resistance to motion/acceleration by polarizing the vacuum in the close proximity of the moving craft."

    "As a result, extreme speeds can be achieved."

    If anyone understand this how to manual... please proceed to build a prototype.

    The only reason I would think the United States Navy would release top secret information on an anti gravity device... is because the adversaries.. already built their own.

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    From Wikipedia:

    "His patent applications on behalf of his employers have attracted international attention for their potential military and energy-producing applications, but also doubt about their feasibility, and speculation that they may be misinformation intended to mislead the United States' strategic adversaries about the direction of United States defense research."

    On another of his inventions:

    "Testing on the feasibility of a High Energy Electromagnetic Field Generator (HEEMFG) occurred from October 2016 to September 2019; at a total cost of $508,000 over three years. The vast majority of expenditure was on salaries. The "Pais Effect" could not be proven and no further research was conducted. Brett Tingley wrote for The Drive that "Despite every physicist we have spoken to over the better part of two years asserting that the "Pais Effect" has no scientific basis in reality and the patents related to it were filled with pseudo-scientific jargon, NAWCAD confirmed they were interested enough in the patents to spend more than a half-million dollars over three years developing experiments and equipment to test Pais' theories""
     
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    Patents are one way to legally prevent a technology from entering the market. This keeps the technology in the "black". In this case, it's only to be used by the government of the United States. So a company like Tesla or Toyota would in essence be told to "back off" of this technology. For a country like Russia, China or Iran who play by no economic rules, they will use this for "black projects" and military advantage. As so is the US. But for the masses we won't be allowed to see this in the market. With a patent, at least we can "try" to learn and tweak it enough to make it "free marketable" if the information is correct. If you understand astro physics, quantum physics...
     
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    The Russians have always been good at big science concepts. Sometimes they can apply this. They did well with Sputnik, heavy lift vehicles, the helicopter (if you count Sikorsky), Venus probes, etc. Often however they come out with neat concepts that no one is able to do anything with.

    This looks like the second kind. You can make anything fly if you have enough power, but I don't see enough room for power plant and engines, let alone a payload. I do like the electroluminescent stripes and panels though.
     
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    What happened to Concordski?
     
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    The Tupolev Tu-144 was a grand concept, and it almost worked, but they rushed it into production before it was ready, possibly so they would beat the Concorde. There were problems with control at low speed, engine reliability, and it was painfully loud inside. Military aircraft can be loud inside and they just make you wear hearing protectors. Civilians want to be able to talk to people. Then there was a notorious crash at the Paris airshow in '78 where one just fell out of the sky while they were showing it to the world.
     
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    On my last trip to Russia it seemed like everything they'd built recently incorporated a nightclub, so this fits well.
     
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    The Wikipedia page suggests a lot more problems than that.

    Tupolev Tu-144 - Wikipedia
     
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    Well if you've ever flown азрофлот, you'd know that any list of problems was really just an overview of notables.
     
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    How about the Sukhoi Superjet 100?
     
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    Never mind these little hundred seat passenger jets. I want an Ekranoplan! *That's* a real mans' plane, er aircraft, er hovercraft, er vehicle!
     
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