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42/40 = uneven tire wear or unsafe?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by plasm, Jan 3, 2006.

  1. plasm

    plasm New Member

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    Does anyone know if running at 42/40 (on any tires) will wear the center before the outer edges of the tire? If the tread is wearing unevenly, it would indicate that the tire isn't contacting the ground optimally, so that would be a safety issue. I'm just wondering because it's quite a bit higher than the recommended 35/33 pressure.

    I've been running at 42/40 for a while now, and I love the increased MPG and handling, but I'm wondering if I'm sacrificing safety and/or tread life at the same time.

    Thanks!
     
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    I ran 40/38 on my '02 for 54K mi. and the wear was perfectly even. Those were Bridgestone Potenzas, too, not a very good tire otherwise.

    And yes, technically safety could be a slight factor---mostly, I think, in the event of having a slight bounce if you drove over something, thus temporarily losing grip with that wheel, instead of "squishing" over it.
     
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    nope... on LRR tires, pressure has to be much much higher before crowning becomes a problem
     
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    Picked up my 06' yesterday and checked the pressure after the car sat several hours. They had 31 all around... So I got my portable little compressor out and riased em' right up to 37/35. I'm nervous about running 42/40 or even 40/38... No one who runs that high and has had their car say 2 years now has experienced early wear of their struts etc? I live in NYC and hitting the inevitable pothole(s) around here can be a bitch on the suspension and running that high, well, can it really be good?
     
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    I actually just got Goodyear TripleTreds put on... I don't think those are LRR. Do you think those should be okay at 42/40 as well? Thanks!
     
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    My integrities wore more out the outer edges than the center...I religiously maintained 42f/40r pressure.

    I've had my Prius for over 2 years and have no issues with struts/handling and have never heard a report of any issues.

    Modern steel belted radial tires should have no issues of crowning/center wear at the pressures we're talking about here.
     
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    It's a non-issue.

    Pressure all the way up to the maximum is what a good quality tire will maintain its shape at nowadays. After 30,000 miles with my HydroEdge tires running at 44/42, the wear is still even all the way across the surface.

    The days of rounding tires are just bad memories from decades past.
     
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    thanks for the expert advice, john and evan. :) you guys are awesome!
     
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    I'll second Evan's response - I kept my stock Integritys at 42/40 for 50k and they still wore out on the edges first. Started to become evident at 25k or so. I was scared to go higher, but wondered if I could even out the wear.
     
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    edge wear is normal under all conditions if the tires are not properly rotated and balanced. front tires will wear on the edge faster and this wear is FASTER for underinflated tires. normal for ANY other pressure. that is why front to rear rotation is critical. a rebalance is recomended for each 25-33% of usable tread wear loss.

    edge wear occurs while turning and can not be avoided. for most tires, a small amount of overinflation will slow the wear down. the rears because they are pulled around the corner with minimal weight on them, dont distort and dont wear on any spot unevenly
     
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    Edge wear on front is now more related to hard/fast cornering than to pressures within the tires rated ranges. That is, if you don't have a alignment problem.
     
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    I got 40k miles at 38-36 to 42-40 psi ranges.

    Tread_Depth_(mils)____Integrity_after_40,080_rotated_every_10k
    _________FrontLeft__________FrontRight__________RearLeft_____________RearRight
    Inside_____14___________________15_______________17__________________13
    Middle____12___________________15_______________16__________________13
    Outside____10___________________11_______________12__________________12
     
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    LRR tires? What's that Dave?
     
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    Low rolling resistance.

    tires specially designed to keep their figures in a manner of speaking. iow, they stay round. this reduces the flexing of the rubber as the tire spins, (the flat side is not very flat) which reduces heat caused by friction and increases tread life and decreases comfort.

    at work we share our parking lot with the WA state dept of Health. few years ago, WA State mandated that all state funded fleet vehicles (if they wanted their funding to continue) had to upgrade to alternative fuel vehicles that reduced polution (if such a vehicle existed). The Prius is still the best choice going. so there are a BUNCH of Prius state vehicles there.

    i have had several opportunities to talk with employees there and their reactions to ride comfort ranges from

    "rides fine. no complaints"

    to

    "i would never spend my money on it"

    i talked to this one lady who, by far, had the strongest opinion on it (i think she has control issues...seemed very nice though) who said that if riding in the back seat, in less than 10 minutes, she had a pounding headache. she surmised it was either the vibration or some subsonic frequency that did it (she claimed to be sensitive to that). but she also said she liked the vehicle and didnt have any issues if she was driving...

    i have never riden in the back of my Prius so i cant say, but i have had a lot of passengers and all are totally impressed with the leg room of the back. only average comments about comfort. i do know that more than a few were jealous that the front seats reclined back to nearly any position.

    now with the DOH people, i also noticed a very very obvious general disdain for fleet cars in general. there is only 2 non Prius cars i have ever seen over there besides vans and they are very large 4 door sedans. boat types, i call em. dont know if they just want to drive a car that gets 12 mpg without having to pay for the gas or they just want to drive them because they seem much more exclusive.
     
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    I run my tires at 37/35. Based on posts on PriusChat I tried 42/40 for several weeks and then reduced them to 38/35. I thought that both the ride and handling were improved and I saw no change in gas mileage.
     
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    I have settled on 36/34. Higher pressures may give better mpgs, but the ride is harsher and I feel that this contributes to rattles appearing before they should.