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97 MPG commute ... aiming for 100!

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Fuel Economy' started by JimboK, Jun 11, 2009.

  1. JimboK

    JimboK One owner, low mileage

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    Or 95.5 MPG, depending on whether you believe CAN-View or ScanGauge:

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    Here's the route. I'm helped by light traffic at 6:30 a.m, a ~140' elevation drop, and of course, warm weather. Afternoon commutes don't come close to this -- more like 70-75 MPG.

    This is to a temporary work location I've been assigned to for the last 3 months. The assignment is over at the end of this month and I'm back to my normal office, with a somewhat less hypermiling-friendly route. Assuming the weather warms a bit more over the next couple of weeks and as school buses and other school-related traffic disappear, I'm hopeful for a 100 MPG commute before I move back "home."
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    I couldn't do that if my commute were straight downhill. Nice work!

    Tom
     
  3. bestmapman

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    Nice Jim. It will be interesting to see your tank final figures.
     
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    JimboK One owner, low mileage

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    Thanks, guys.

    Jud, the tank currently sits at about 74 MPG. I had a 100 mile freeway trip (unsuitable for SHM) a couple of weeks ago and some necessary short-hop trips on a heavily traveled commercial route. Both put dents in the tank number.

    I'm at 3 pips now so I'll be refueling in a few days. My goal is to hit 80 for a tank sometime this summer, though I'm not sure it will be the next one. I have another road trip or two to make before the end of the month.
     
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    Evan has a competitor! :)
     
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    Way cool ... yep ... there's always someone out there with a biger/faster six shooter just wait'n to take you out :D

    Now where's the nay sayers? "BAAH ... better to get 25% better mpg on a 10mpg guzzler, than 3% on 100mpg"
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    (shaking head)

    You guys are making my all time best tank of 71.6mpg look like poo.
     
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    JimboK, how DO you DO it???

    With a nod to Tom, (qbee42) I couldn't do it if my commute was straight downhill both ways!
     
  9. JimboK

    JimboK One owner, low mileage

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    Paul, several things:

    1. Extensive use of pulse and glide.
    2. Selecting routes favorable for P&G.
    3. Learning and exploiting the timing of the lights.
    4. Gentle acceleration during pulses.
    5. Keeping speed as low as traffic tolerates.
    6. Judicious use of EV mode as described here, paying close attention to ...
    7. Careful battery management, i.e., generally keeping state of charge above 55%.
    8. Getting up a few minutes earlier than necessary when traffic is lighter.
    9. Engine block heater.
    I neglected to mention in my original post that this route has 12 lights and 6 stop signs.
     
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  10. TonyPSchaefer

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    Jimbo, I'm truly impressed.

    You should file a lawsuit with Toyota claiming that their advertised mileage is nowhere near what you see in your real-world driving.
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    Amazing MPG for 12 lights and 6 stop signs. Diesel can't touch it.

    Can you define "Gentle"? Is it MPG half of MPH?
     
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    71.6MPG? For a tank? A full tank?

    Did you coast from Flathead to Missoula? Tell me more!
     
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    Average speed was around 23 MPH. I would not call that "real-world" in this technological age. JimboK would get better MPG by riding a bike at that average speed ... and one hell of a work-out to boot!

    But he is a hyper-miler fraternity member, which I am not. To each his own!
     
  14. JimboK

    JimboK One owner, low mileage

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    Add #10 to my list above: Avoiding the brakes as much as possible. It's pretty routine these days that I arrive at work with no regen icons on the MFD:

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    This, BTW, was my previous tank before another highway trip that knocked it down to 73 MPG before fillup.

    Yeah, others can do that, so why can't I? :eek:hwell:

    No, it's considerably gentler than that, just enough for the ICE to light unless I've got traffic behind that can't pass or I'm going uphill. That generally puts iMPG above MPH, often well above it.
     
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    JimboK One owner, low mileage

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    Well, it's my real world. ;)

    When I was riding my bike regularly I still never came close to that kind of average speed on the typical hilly terrain in my neck of the woods. Maybe 15 MPH when I was in top condition (for me), more like 12. Besides, these roads are too dangerous. I'd have to leave home in the dark most of the year. And in the p.m.... forget it!
     
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    I suspect the space shuttle uses more fuel on its re-entry.
    Great numbers!
     
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    Aw Jim, stay off those darn highways, you have plenty of backroads in your area. Or skip it and P&G to Hybridfest.

    Wayne
     
  18. JimboK

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    I usually do when Marilee's not with me. ;)

    For the trip that caused such a hit on this tank the backroad option would have taken 3-4 times longer. Neither she nor I had the patience for that on this day. Not only would it have been slower, it would have been considerably more circuitous, and I'm not sure there would have been any net fuel savings. Bottom line, it wasn't worth it.

    As for Hybridfest, I'll have to pass this year. I have to admit, when I went two years ago I briefly considered what it would take to P&G most of the way. I concluded I didn't have enough vacation time. :D
     
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    Does the gentle acceleration only work since the commute is mostly downhill (as I read somewhere in the thread)? And 97 MPG isn't round trip right?
     
  20. JimboK

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    No, the commute is not mostly downhill; it's just a net decrease in elevation. The actual topography is a mixture of rolling hills and relatively flat terrain. Unless following traffic dictates otherwise, I accelerate as gently as possible in all terrain to still accelerate up to my chosen speed. What changes is ICE RPM. On level terrain or downhill, it might be 1200, which translates to an iMPG up to 1.5 x speed. Uphills of course require more power.

    I've considered describing in detail exactly what I'm doing for each segment of this commute, but just haven't taken the time. Stay tuned!