Ancient Manuscript Revealed..!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 6 2006, 03:12 PM) [snapback]235914[/snapback]</div>

Oh yeh, that sounds SO much like Jesus....NOT!
Where to people come up with this crap??

 

Judas was actually possessed by Satan himself. This should surprise no one. Believe what you will, at your own peril.......

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(keydiver @ Apr 6 2006, 03:58 PM) [snapback]236016[/snapback]</div>

Uh... the crap where all the reglious stories come from? :lol:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dipper @ Apr 6 2006, 07:26 PM) [snapback]236058[/snapback]</div>

Is this the same crap that originated Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 6 2006, 11:27 PM) [snapback]236142[/snapback]</div>

It's a passage in Mark I believe. "After the sop, satan entered into him".

Yep, Judas can truly say...the devil made me do it. However, it is also in the scriptures that Satan cannot enter into a person possessing the Holy Spirit. Satan, get thee behind me.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Apr 6 2006, 06:05 PM) [snapback]236079[/snapback]</div>

Santa Claus... you know he is real, right?
I am not talking about the American Marketing crap of a Santa Claus.

Saint Nicholas is the origin of the Marketed Santa Claus. In fact, he has been so venerated that the Vatican forbid Christians from celebrating him.... because the Pope was scared of his fame.

Now the Easter Bunny... its an American Marketing myth... like the GM Hybrid. :lol:

 

Seems like that scene between Judas and Jesus in The Last Temptation of Christ was prophetic.

 

Some of you religious nuts will believe about anything. Your need to follow and believe in something is strong. But if you didn't belong to one organized religion, you'd belong to another.....whatever cult it is.

One this is for sure, if anything (like this) is dug up to dispute what has been taught, you can be sure that the nutters will be out stirring up trouble - sometimes violence.

That is what religion is all abuot - violence under the veil of peace.

 

this kind of stuff always amuses me because it freaks out the super-religious people. anything that contradicts what you've been told is EVIL and should be instantly rejected on the account of you not wanting to go to hell.

and what about the study recently published saying that conditions were possible for Jesus to have walked on a floating mass of ice on the sea of galilee? the guy who published that has gotten death threats.

oh the irony. they might as well make it official and change the commandment to "thou shalt not kill, except in my name" since that's what's been going on for ages. institutionalized religion has been manipulated by man for so long that any original intent has been warped and twisted beyond recognition.

 

The thing that amuses me is the people who are complete literalists when it comes to the Bible. Researchers have found that there are many (many) examples of the Bible being mis-transcribed, especially in the early days. Bascially, early on, the transcriptions were done by (fairly) uneducated people who were able to write and transcribe but, most of the time, didn't understand the substance of what they were writing.

I heard an interview with a former Jesuit recently who had basically decided that he didn't believe that the Bible was the word of God anymore. His argument was very simple: First, assume God exists. If God exists and he passed on his word in the form of the Bible, why wouldn't he then "guide the hand" of the people that were transcribing the Bible to make sure that the Bible continued to represent his word?

Interesting stuff. . .

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Betelgeuse @ Apr 7 2006, 08:27 AM) [snapback]236320[/snapback]</div>

Well.... conservative regilious folks try to get it both ways [well, make it every way]. When someone complains that the Bible could be wrong, they say God had a hand in making the Bible without one's interruptation. Hey, God would let his believers die of horrible deaths daily and not have his hand to help, and they think that is God's intent.

If that is the God they believe in, he sounds more like a fame hungry God than a loving God. At least that is not the God I believe in.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 6 2006, 12:12 PM) [snapback]235914[/snapback]</div>

This certainly adds interesting subtext to the Bible.

You could look at this as a suppliment to the original text that changes the "character" of Judas. This kinda makes Judas a hero of sorts. Keep in mind that in the religious world suicide is payable with eternal damnation. The other gospels report that after Judas betrayed Jesus, he hung himself. If the private conversation actually happened between the two, the other disciples wouldn't know about this and therefore their portrayal of Judas would have been that of the villian after the fact.

Now with that being said, Judas knew that his betrayal was at the request of Jesus making it even more painful to deal with emotionally--hence the suicide becomes almost a self-punishment and a ticket to hell for the betrayal. This makes Judas a bit of a martyr in his own right with the ultimate reward being eternal life at the end of days.

This is just my take on this...I'm drawing off years of parochial school and having this beat into my skull for 10 years.

 

I was raised as a catholic and saw the hypocrisy of the righteous every Sunday. The belief that if you confess your sins makes you better than evryone else never set well with me.

In a thousand years from now would someone look at Hitler and believe that he was worshipped? How would stories of the Bush Reign read in 2000 years?

I tend to think of the bible as another story book. I live my life independent of strict guidelines but with my own need to be loved and appreciated for myself as my approach to the world.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Salsawonder @ Apr 7 2006, 11:14 AM) [snapback]236407[/snapback]</div>

Guess I am not alone in this world after all for thinking like this.