At what price is it profitable to charge your prime @ a chargepoint?

i'm with you o/p, sounds perfect. but consider, it may be worth paying a bit more to drive electric, and not burn deadly gasoline, both pollution and middle east.

i pay 24 cents a kWh, and the pip takes about 3 kWh, so about 75 cents to take me 15 miles vs 60 on gas. so that's $3.00 for electric vs $2.25 to $2.50 for gas.

 

Gas: $2.80 / 55 mpg = 5 cents a mile
EV: about 4 miles a kWh

Then break-even is 20 cents a kWh

• Advice: Work an extra hour and ignore this nonsense
• Advice #2: Charge at home
• Advice #3: Install PV at home. I expect to pay 2 cents a kWh for my PV juice, which works out to about 28 cents a gallon equivalent. Car fueling has not been this cheap since the 1960s, and thankfully my income has increased ;-)

 

Keep in mind you aren't just paying Chargepoint for electricity, but also parking.

 

Since you pay by time and not by kWh, it doesn't matter what car you drive. What matters is the speed of your onboard charger. That's 3.3v for PiP and Prime.

That's means you shouldn't pay more than $0.70 an hour. Since most pay chargers are $2 an hour and up...

you don't charge in public unless it's free. Simple.

 

You mean 3.3 kW

 

around here, paid chargers might be cheaper than home.

 

Really worth it in the first 100 days, not so much after

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For me it is about 20 miles round trip to get to the nearest accessible Chargepoint (closest are in private company parking lots). And then I would have to waste 2 hours doing nothing. I don't expect to even activate the card.

 

Sell it

 

If Prius Prime will allow max charging current 32 AMP at ChargePoint L2. Which will be cheaper than gas. I got about 13AMP @ ChargePoint after my 1st 100 days no more ChargePoint. It's not the ChargePoint's fault. It's Toyota onboard current limit protection issue.

 

I am currently charging every day at work at a rate of $1/hour. I typically end up paying an average of $2.20 per charge (burning the toyota credit). Once it is over, I don't think it makes economical sense to charge at this rate even if I can squeeze a 30 mile range. I plan on buying a fold-able bike which I can carry in my car and plug in at a nearby (1.4 miles) free charger. Bonus is the 20 minutes of exercise per day.

 

It's not a current-limit protection issue. The charger is in the car, and the charger the Prime comes with is a 16A charger. A 32A charger would be bigger, heavier and more expensive. None of the plug in hybrids come with a bigger charger.

 

Thanks for the information. Too bad Prime doesn't come with a bigger charger like Fiat e500. It will charge battery in 32 AMP. It will charge in 1/2 the time.

 

BEV such as the Leaf tend to come with 32 amp (6KW) chargers. For PHEVs, a 3KW charger is the current "standard". BEV may also may also support fast DC charging.

 

The amperage limit is probably due to the battery cooling. Liquid cooled batteries can be charged faster, because the heat can be managed better.

The prius batteries are air cooled, so the charge must be limited. Thats also why the battery packs in the prius are huge, they need the space for air channeling.