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Being Curious How many sensors in an 05?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by momstoys, Nov 19, 2009.

  1. momstoys

    momstoys New Member

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    My 05 Prius just turned 41,000 miles; is never subjected to harsh conditions, and sits out the winters. We bought an extended service agreement, AKA prepaid service agreement at 35,000 miles hoping never to need it. We are down to the last 100 dollars of the agreement with replacements of sensors. This week it was the oxygen sensor again (two previous, same thing) and a headlight sensor. Just how many sensors does my Prius have and do I have to allocate 3 to 5 hundred per year for replacement? IF so why are they so shoddy? Thanks for satisfying my curiousity and budgeting.
     
  2. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

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    There are lots of sensors since the Prius has several electronic systems that require feedback for proper operation.

    Regarding the exhaust system, there is an air/fuel ratio sensor and an oxygen sensor. Those provide input to the engine ECU so that the proper fuel/air mixture can be maintained and so that the health of the catalytic converter can be monitored.

    If you have HID lights, there is a sensor mounted to the rear beam axle so that as weight is added to the rear of the car, the headlights will point downwards to prevent blinding oncoming traffic.

    Since your car has needed multiple oxygen sensors, I think it would be reasonable to inquire into why this is the case? Note that for example, the presence of antifreeze might cause early oxygen sensor failure. Have you noticed any problem with your radiator coolant level dropping?

    The following Wikipedia article may be of interest:
    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_sensor[/ame]

    "Heated sensor lifetime is typically 100,000 miles (160,000 km). ... For heated sensors, normal deposits are burned off during operation and failure occurs due to catalyst depletion, similar to the reason a battery stops producing current. The probe then tends to report lean mixture, the ECU enriches the mixture, the exhaust gets rich with carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons, and the mileage worsens.
    Leaded gasoline contaminates the oxygen sensors and catalytic converters. Most oxygen sensors are rated for some service life in the presence of leaded gasoline but sensor life will be shortened to as little as 15,000 miles depending on the lead concentration. Lead-damaged sensors typically have their tips discolored light rusty.
    Another common cause of premature failure of lambda probes is contamination of fuel with silicones (used in some sealings and greases) or silicates (used as corrosion inhibitors in some antifreezes). In this case, the deposits on the sensor are colored between shiny white and grainy light gray.
    Leaks of oil into the engine may cover the probe tip with an oily black deposit, with associated loss of response.
    An overly rich mixture causes buildup of black powdery deposit on the probe. This may be caused by failure of the probe itself, or by a problem elsewhere in the fuel rationing system."
     
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  3. Mike Dimmick

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  4. momstoys

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    Thanks, I'm going to take the car to an independent and have them inspect it. It seems so odd that a car with so few miles and pampered would keep needing replacements. My husband jokingly says that the local dealership has them rigged to go out at intervals.
     
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