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Boulder Hybrid Conversions plug in systems

Discussion in 'Prius PHEV Plug-In Modifications' started by pluginconversions, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. pluginconversions

    pluginconversions New Member

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    In December 2010, Boulder Hybrid Conversions installed two plug in conversions in my two Prius'. Here is the information about the systems:

    2006 Prius, Barcelona Red
    10 kWh system (based on Plug In Supply system)
    $12,897.60 before tax credits
    $5,607.60 after tax credits
    upgraded rear springs to accommodate the extra weight
    EV: up to 52 mph, up to 50 miles, zero gas consumed
    Blended mode: up to 100 miles, 100+ miles per gallon*
    This car is parked in a garage and charged every night.

    2005 Prius, Salsa Red Pearl
    4 kWh (based on Enginer system)
    $5,367.20 before tax credits
    $724.20 after tax credits
    EV: up to 34 mph, up to 20 miles, zero gas consumed
    Blended mode: up to 40 miles, 60-80 miles per gallon*
    This car is parked outside and charged when possible.

    *depends on outside temperature, how often you plug in, how you drive and how many passengers are in the car

    I will post gas mileage information each time the gas tanks are filled.

    Google "Boulder Hybrid Conversions" for more information. Tell them you saw this post on priuschat and receive a free cabin air filter ($48.95 value at Toyota dealer) with your paid system installation!

    Colorado residents with Prius' registered in Colorado are eligible for the 85% (up to $6000) tax credit in addition to the Federal 10% tax credit for plug in conversions.
     
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    I actually filled the gas tank for the first time yesterday in the 2006 Prius since the plug in conversion. I didn't really need gas, but wanted to fill the gas tank to start gathering real world data. My posts will include the following information:

    2006 Prius
    02/20/2011
    Current miles: 39864
    Trip miles: 391.0
    Cost/gallon: $2.999
    Gallons: 3.297
    Gas cost: $9.89
    kWh used: 82.14
    Actual MPG: 118.6
     
  3. pluginconversions

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    2005 Prius
    02/02/2011
    Current miles: 78252
    Trip miles: 367.8
    Cost/gallon: $2.869
    Gallons: 7.460
    Gas cost: $21.40
    kWh used: 16.42
    Actual MPG: 49.3

    Mileage is lower due to below zero temperatures here recently.
     
  4. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    I didn't think the Enginer system qualified for the CO rebate? I thought only the hymotion did?
     
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    Check out Colorado Income FYI 9: Alternative Fuel Tax Credits. It lists the qualified conversions from Boulder Hybrid Conversions.
     
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    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    I actually heard a podcast with Paul from BHC and I believe he stated that if you do the install yourself, you can bring the car to them to certify the install and get the tax credit. I suggest calling them and seeing if that is indeed true. But unless you already have the kit, it's a mute point as there are no more direct to consumer sales for the kit.

    I'm waiting for the 2010 to become certified so I get get mine done at BHC.
     
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    That's a great deal, I'm moving to Colo....:rockon: if I have more than 2 Hybrid cars, the ocean and the beautiful beaches 15 minutes away and my family members near by...:rolleyes:
     
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    2005 Prius
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    Current miles: 78575
    Trip miles: 322.5
    Cost/gallon: $3.179
    Gallons: 6.850
    Gas cost: $21.78
    kWh used: 17.15
    Actual MPG: 47.1

    2006 Prius
    03/19/2011
    Current miles: 40330
    Trip miles: 465.9
    Cost/gallon: $3.299
    Gallons: 5.242
    Gas cost: $17.29
    kWh used: 94.27
    Actual MPG: 88.9
     
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    Current miles: 78989
    Trip miles: 414.2
    Cost/gallon: $3.489
    Gallons: 8.157
    Gas cost: $28.46
    kWh used: 19.13
    Actual MPG: 50.8

    2006 Prius
    04/17/2011
    Current miles: 40870
    Trip miles: 540.2
    Cost/gallon: $3.489
    Gallons: 4.126
    Gas cost: $14.40
    kWh used: 83.60
    Actual MPG: 130.9
     
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  11. pluginconversions

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    Current miles: 41327
    Trip miles: 456.2
    Cost/gallon: $3.639
    Gallons: 1.754
    Gas cost: $6.38
    kWh used: 107
    Actual MPG: 260.1

    This was accomplished by using the electric mode for all city driving and blended mode on the highway.
     
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  12. ericbecky

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    It might be good to remind readers which car has the Enginer and which has the Plug In supply-based system. As the thread grows it may be hard to backtrack.
     
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    if i am reading correctly, the plug in is much better than anything else on the market including the new phev prius and the engineer is worthless?
     
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    I calculated 344 wh/mile for the EV part, assuming 50 mpg on petrol.
     
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    Worthless may be a bit harsh....
     
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    I wouldn't say that the Enginer based system (4kWh) is "worthless." It is an entry level plug in system that has a good value, but not the EV driving experience than the Plug-In Supply based system (10 kWh), which allows for pure EV driving up to 52 mph. For those of you considering the Hymotion system (5 kWh), the driving experience is similar to the Enginer system with the 34 mph limitation. The Hymotion system is significantly more expensive before and after tax credits than the Enginer system given that there is only a 1 kWh difference. There is a trade off between lower cost and more reliable parts between the two systems. The range of each system varies based on the battery capacity.

    Boulder Hybrid Conversions warranties the Enginer based system for three years on parts and labor and the Plug-In supply based system for two years on parts and labor.
     
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    well, rebates aside, if i'm getting 55-65 without the plug in, what's the point?
     
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    The point is...had you the urge to double those numbers, you could with the conversions available now...and perhaps have a more reasonable ride until practical EV's (ie reasonable range, reasonable cost) are one the market.
     
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    i see that on the one car (expensive conversion) but not on the other. 50mpg? what's the point? i know others are doing better with the engineer tho.
     
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    I have both systems to demonstrate the differences as part of the sales presentation. Unfortunately, as previously mentioned, the 2005 Prius with the Enginer system does not have the ability to be recharged every night like my 2006 Prius since it is parked outside. I am working with the local homeowner's association to have a receptacle installed so that I utilize the Enginer system better. Also, those ~50 mpg readings were during the winter when the temperatures were -10 degrees outside. I'm sure that everyone's Prius' during that time was probably averaging 38-40 mpg. That shows that the Enginer system provided about a 25% increase in fuel efficiency. That's pretty good for a system that wasn't recharged every night in a warm garage.