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Bush: We Will Succeed in Iraq

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    WASHINGTON — Emphasizing the successes in Iraq a day after returning from a surprise visit there, President Bush said Wednesday that the United States will help Iraq succeed as it heads toward a stable democracy.

    "My trip over there gave me confidence that we have a partner that is capable of setting priority and developing a plan to make those priorities, and then following through to see that those priorities are met," Bush told reporters in a Rose Garden press conference.

    "I made it very clear to the Iraqis — and I'm going to make it clear to them again right here — that we'll stay with them and help them succeed," he said.

    Despite all the good news out of Iraq lately, the president said the threat from Al Qaeda is real, and it must be stopped not just in Iraq but everywhere.

    "Iraq is not the only part of this war. It's an essential part. But it's not the only part of the war on terror. And so the decisions I make are all aimed at protecting the American people and understanding the vast stakes involved," he said.

    "They still want to do innocent people harm, whether it be in the Middle East or here in the United States of America," Bush added. "But the terrorists are vulnerable. And we will strike their network and disrupt their operations and continue to bring their leaders to justice."

    While trying to cripple the terror network, the president said he would like to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where terrorists plucked from the Afghanistan battlefield in October 2001 have been in detention since then.

    "I'd like to close Guantanamo. But I also recognize that we're holding some people that are darned dangerous, and that we'd better have a plan to deal with them in our courts," Bush said. "The best way to handle — in my judgment handle these types of people is through our military courts. And that's why we're waiting on the Supreme Court to make a decision."

    Bush noted that closing Guantanamo Bay down would mean in part sending people back to their native countries, but that would also create a Catch-22, since many people would be returned to countries that would treat their prisoners much worse than the United States would.


    "The State Department is in the process of encouraging, you know, countries to take the folks back. Of course, sometimes we get criticized for sending some people out of Guantanamo back to their home country because of the nature of the home countries," he said, noting that many prisoners have been sent home already.

    The president said the biggest threat to Iraq now comes from insurgents and Iraqi civilians who would like to prevent the country from achieving the goal of a democratically elected government with a stable infrastructure that allows Iraqis to have confidence in their leaders.

    Militarily, among the new efforts being undertaken to build confidence, is Operation Together Forward, which got under way on Wednesday morning in Iraq. The operation, created by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, is being carried out by 26,000 Iraqi soldiers, 23,000 Iraqi police and 7,200 coalition forces.

    It's purpose is to restore order to Baghdad, a city of 6.5 million people. Iraqi troops will increase the number of checkpoints, enforce a curfew and implement a strict weapons ban across the Iraqi capital. A separate mission will be to restore security in Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province.

    But building confidence in the government comes not only from reducing violence, but also from making sure the trains run on time, the president said. To that end, he said he is corralling his entire Cabinet to help out and calling on other nations who have previously pledged support to contribute to Iraq's success.

    "The international community pledged about $13 billion to help this new government, and they've only paid about $3 billion. And so we're going to help encourage those who made a pledge to pay up, to help the new government succeed," Bush said.

    Bush offered a long list of actions his Cabinet is taking to help the Iraqi government get off the ground, including sending advisory teams to help with energy production, agriculture and human rights.

    "We are working with the Iraqi government on measures to protect the infrastructure from insurgent attacks. There's rapid repair teams that are being established that will quickly restore oil and electricity production if and when attacks do occur," Bush said.

    Bush suggested that a way to increase unity, particularly among disaffected Sunnis, would be to make sure that everyone has a stake in Iraq's chief commodity — oil.

    "My advice to them is to use their energy assets in a way to unite the country ... they may not have oil resources in their part of the country but they have a stake" in making sure the oil is produced, he said.

    With plans to send over Cabinet secretaries, Bush said he wants to establish an internal affairs bureau to root out corruption and a team "to help them investigate and punish human rights violations."

    He said he has deployed advisory teams to assist Iraq's new ministers of defense and interior, who are creating command and control teams.

    The news conference was announced earlier Wednesday morning, and like Bush's surprise trip to Iraq the day before, it's part of a White House attempt to keep the spotlight on Iraq to capitalize on a series of to positive events there, including the formation of a unity government and the death of Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

    Bush said he had a chance to congratulate the soldiers involved in the mission to kill Zarqawi, who had taken responsibility for dozens of attacks on Iraqi civilians and coalition troops.

    "When you're in a theater like that, it's important to hear words of congratulations sometimes, to hear that their efforts are appreciated — and doing hard work. And I got to do that," Bush said.

    The president said he will determine when to reduce or increase the number of U.S. troops based on what his generals say. Currently, about 129,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq. Several U.S. lawmakers and even the Iraqi prime minister are hopeful of dropping that number to about 100,000 by year's end.


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    WOW~

    And there was no responce from the Left.... :blink: :huh: :mellow: :unsure: B)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Jun 14 2006, 10:43 PM) [snapback]271490[/snapback]</div>
    It's spelled "response" not "responce", and I know it isn't a typo. The only time your posts are spelled correctly is when you copy and paste :blink:
    Perhaps you could go to the library and read some books, that could improve your spelling.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hybridTHEvibe @ Jun 14 2006, 10:56 PM) [snapback]271493[/snapback]</div>
    Woo hoo, It just irritates you to read misspelled posts doesn't it? :p
    Glad to be on yer last nerve (Spell Check)! <_< :lol: B)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Jun 14 2006, 11:01 PM) [snapback]271496[/snapback]</div>
    just gives me more reasons to laugh at you
     
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    This all comes just HOW many years after "Mission Accomplished?"
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(darelldd @ Jun 14 2006, 08:41 PM) [snapback]271510[/snapback]</div>
    Mission != War
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(darelldd @ Jun 14 2006, 11:41 PM) [snapback]271510[/snapback]</div>
    Yes, the mission was actually accomplished. Iraq was successfully, effectively, taken, under the control of US forces, as all major opposition fell apart or was done away with from a pure militaristic perspective.

    Unfortunately, many people equate "Mission Accomplished" with something far more arbitrary and subjective. From DAY 1, Bush stated we were in for a long haul, and not to expect any "quick" changes, from DAY 1. It's only been barely more than 3 years, people are such an impatient bunch thinking we can actually waltz into a country like Iraq, set the oven to 450, and pull out the loaf in 15 minutes. :rolleyes:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hybridTHEvibe @ Jun 14 2006, 10:56 PM) [snapback]271493[/snapback]</div>
    Uh oh! Here come the:

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hybridTHEvibe @ Jun 14 2006, 11:04 PM) [snapback]271497[/snapback]</div>
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    There he is, the one in the middle..
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  11. TonyPSchaefer

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    Just out of curiosity, in which country that American troops were once stationed and fighting are there no longer American troops?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ Jun 15 2006, 10:42 AM) [snapback]271615[/snapback]</div>
    Good point, I think we have bases in most countries :huh:
     
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    Mission=get off my case for being incompetent
    Mission= sheeple distraction
    Mission= slap Houssain around after he embarrased my daddy

    WHAT ABOUT BIN LADEN?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ Jun 15 2006, 10:42 AM) [snapback]271615[/snapback]</div>
    Canada, Mexico, Nicaragua, Somalia (not a good outcome there huh?), Libya, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Denmark,etc, etc

    most countries value the significance of American military presence as a deterrant to those that would wish them harm, and probably tried to do so.

    even germany was mucho upset when we started to reallocate resources out of there - even for economic reasons.

    name a country who has ordered us out after we helped defend them?
     
  15. TonyPSchaefer

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    I've been away or otherwise uninterested in getting online for awhile.

    I think dbermanmd holds the answer I was looking for.

    If we stay, we run the risk of being accused of putting our noses in every country and staying there.
    If we leave, we run the risk of being accused of abondoning them.

    Some individuals will want us there while others will want us gone. Some will see us as defenders while others will see us as irritators. In my little mind, it doesn't seem we can make a good move.
     
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    The U.S. population was convinced by a deceptive administration that troops needed to be in Iraq. In essence we went in there under false pretences. We are currently in a similar situation to that of the Vietnam War, a quagmire, with a puppet regime, that will collapse if we leave. We will never get out of there unless we start negotiating with some of the insurgents and get them on our side. Of course there will always be some people who we will never convince. The situation our allegedly great leader got us into will go on becuase of his and the rest of his inept administration for probably the next ten years, several Presidents and cost at the end close to a TRILLION dollars (what is it now 380 Billion dollars).
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FBear @ Jun 20 2006, 11:08 AM) [snapback]274078[/snapback]</div>
    1. Both Houses voted in the affirmative to approve the Articles of War - no deception of the American public. And they did so with a clear majority.

    2. This is not Vietnam - not close.
    Differences include:
    A: Ho only wanted Saigon - OBL/Al-Qaeda knows no boundries of wants
    B: Ho/North Vietnam NEVER attacked the American Homeland - Never Attacked us first and without provocation
    C: Ho/North Vietnam inflicted many many more causalties in a three year period of full combat - NOT close here.
    D: The geopolitical value of Vietnam is nil compared to the Middle East
    E: This conflict is based on a "religous" platform
    F: Ho/North Vietnamese - VALUED LIFE - NO VIRGINS WAITING FOR THEM
    G: Your conclusion that the insurgency will collapse if we leave was the same made by the people who advocated the same for us in Vietnam. You will be as wrong with that conclusion as they were then. They will never join us because they hate us for what we are.
    H. Puppet regime: is that what you call 8,000,000 Iraqi's voting under the threat of death?? A government that represents all the tribes in Iraq - a puppet regime? How many South Vietnamese voted for their President and you will recognize the difference there too.

    3. The cost of 9/11 was over TWO TRILLION dollars itself. The cost of the next attack will be greater.

    If you cant see the obvious than it is you who can not be conviced. A shame too because the ONLY way we lose this conflict is if we lose the battle of public opinion - like Ho knew and OBL knows too. I would ask you not aid and comfort them in this capacity.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FBear @ Jun 20 2006, 11:08 AM) [snapback]274078[/snapback]</div>
    How quickly people forget, Clinton went in to Iraq and failed to get Sadam Hussien GW just finnished the job! ;)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Jun 20 2006, 12:12 PM) [snapback]274100[/snapback]</div>
    That was actually George H.W. Bush who went into Iraq and "failed" to get Saddam Hussein (actually, a deliberate decision on his part once the Iraqi army was defeated.) But as you say, how quickly people forget.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TonyPSchaefer @ Jun 20 2006, 06:42 AM) [snapback]274039[/snapback]</div>
    As Colin Powell wisely cautioned before the administration embarked on this misadventure, invoking the "Pottery Barn rule" of foreign policy: "you break it, you own it."