Buying a prime tomorrow

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-Current)' started by gscully, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. john1701a

    john1701a Prius Guru

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    Rapid charging, enough for a short errand is great. Being plugged in for just a few minutes is quite handy.

    Taking advantage of local rebates is a good reason too. We got $500 for each L2 charger install.
     
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    Also helps to keep up with the battery drain if you use the Remote A/C button on your key fob. For heat or cooling just turn on the Climate Control and preset the temp on the car before you shut the car off.

    Welcome and enjoy your new wheels!


    Unsupervised!
     
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    you don't need it - be cause the Prime only pulls 3.6kW's.
    BUT . . . since driving EV is so dang addictive, next purchase you may end up w/ an EV that pulls 7.2kW's ... 10 kW's ... even 19kW's !! so it never hurts to make future proof purchases. Note, the most that the 50amp plug pictured by the OP, can pull (for more power hungry appliances than the prime) is 42amps (~10kW's) ... although some plugs w/in that similar configuration (60amp) can do over 50amps, presuming the appropriate wiring & breaker. Higher energy draws require hard wiring. Confer w/ your local electrician for more precise details, as many areas' codes differ.
    @gscully - how about some pic's of the new ride !!
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    I support the use of the Toyota OE 120v EVSE at 240 volts for 2:28 hour charging.
    Using the Primes 120v Charger at 240 Volts, Cost $20 !!! | PriusChat

    Asking a question like that is a polite way to show that there's a ~$500 dollar difference in charging methods...



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    An endorsement of Rob43's solution.

    If you have a 240 Volt outlet of any sort where you can plug in, tell Rob43 to make a NEMA n-nn to NEMA 5-20 adaptor, for under $50. This is cheap enough you do not need to worry about future proofing. If you can not Identify the plug, take a picture and Rob43 will help identify it.

    If you have no 240 volt outlets near where you park, you may need an electrician to install one. And you have two choices, cheap and future proof.

    The cheapest 240 volt Receptacle, wiring, and breaker will be a single phase NEMA 6-20 using a 20 Amp double pole Breaker and at least 12-2 Romex, I would use 10-2 romex if it was any distance. and Rob43 will make you a NEMA 6-20 to NEMA 5-20 adapter.

    A considerable step up in cost is to add the largest Double Pole Breaker your Service Panel can support (often 50 Amps) with at least 6/3 range cable. Then you use the NEMA 14-50 outlet and have Rob43 make a NEMA 14-50 to NEMA 5-20 adapter.

    Still pricier, and very dependent of the age of your house would be a dedicated circuit to a hard wired EVSE, these might be as large as 100 Amps but again your Prime will only use 16 Amps, so we are just future proofing. My personal bet would be 'it will be cheaper when you need it.'

    Do not show the electrician Rob43s adapter.
    Some have had their electrician "mark up" the cost for a car charger so here are ideas you might claim

    NEMA 6-20 welder
    NEMA 14-50 range
    and again you want single phase not 3 phase. (you might consider 3 phase if you have multiple EVs)

    While my daughter and older brother own Primes and my youngest brother owns an i3 Rex, I do not have a Plug in car.
     
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    Here’s the new car. I really like it. I went out for a few hours last night and I was getting 64 miles a gallon. The navigation system is just awesome. Main reason I bought the car. The adaptive cruise control is the greatest thing ever. It took me from 70 to 50 when someone cut in front of me. The only thing I don’t like is the steering wheel. I don’t like the way it feels. I may have to get some type of cover for it.
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    I believe the Prime has a lane departure warning but not a lane keep feature. I am very pleased with my 2017 Prime Advanced but wish it had a lane keep feature like the 2020 Corolla hybrid does.
     
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    It does have lane keep, my 2017 Advanced clearly pushes back when you breach a lane or get close to a vehicle in your blind spot. Feeling any difference would likely be in the power delivery... more with newer models.
     
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    I think you can go in and pick what level of push back you want it to do.
     
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    That's different from lane keeping which is an active system, like the Gen 3 V/Five with AP system. It actively centres you in the lane.

    The LDW w/ SA on the Gen 4/Prime is a semi-active system which only nudges you back after you've approached or crossed the line.
     
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    How does one adjust it? The feature in my 2017 is so faint that it's usually not noticed.
     
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    Congrats and welcome to the Prime club.

    However, I have to ask about this:

    Did something change with the 2020 model that improved the infotainment system, because I found the navigation app on the 2018 model to be subpar compared to Waze or even Google Maps.
     
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    I don't have great unmatched wisdom but try pages 231 and 390 in the big thick owner's manuel.
     
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    To be fair, I was dead empty last weekend and I saw 6hr on the 12A 120V. The 16A 240V was 2:10.

    With 1mi left of range it's usually 5:30 on 12A 120V vs. 1:50 on 16A 240V.

    Not sure why I saw such an increase, but i'd been driving a lot
     
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    Cool- I never timed them but that's just what the car always told me when empty: 5:50 on 110, 2:10 on 220/240
     
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    compared to my 2013 Prius C it’s much better. I only use the map to see where I am and where I need to go. Having an 11” screen is awesome. I don’t use it for turn by turn navigation. It may stink at doing that.
     
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    congrats, all the best!(y)
     
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