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CA sues automakers over GW

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by TimBikes, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. TimBikes

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    Read here
     
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    Ok, that's the stick but where is the carrot?
     
    #2 triphop, Sep 20, 2006
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    tripp Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it?

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(triphop @ Sep 20 2006, 03:11 PM) [snapback]322463[/snapback]</div>
    They shoved the carrot up the auto mfgs arse before they started beating them with the stick. That's the carrot and stick method of motivation. :p
     
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  4. Bob Allen

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    I think the lawsuit itself is a red herring; likely it will be tossed out in court. What IS significant, I think, is that this is the first shot over the bow in the struggle to get car makers to improve. Remember the first cigarette lawsuits?
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  5. TimBikes

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bob Allen @ Sep 20 2006, 06:08 PM) [snapback]322592[/snapback]</div>
    I think you are right Bob. First, I personally think this sort of suit is baseless and ridiculous. Why not sue every citizen in the state who has ever bought a car? Or, for that matter, everyone who has ever exhaled. But you are right that it's probably more in the way of the state positioning / posturing in order to make the automakers improve. In support of your point, it targeted automakers, not the oil companies, since automakers are where the improvement would lie.

    BTW - I like tripps description of carrot and stick. Pretty funny.
     
    #5 TimBikes, Sep 20, 2006
  6. tripp

    tripp Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it?

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TimBikes @ Sep 20 2006, 09:53 PM) [snapback]322675[/snapback]</div>
    I heard it while on active duty (Army) a few years ago. It struck a chord at the time.

    I agree that the suit is ridiculous. It does send a message but I wonder if it's not somewhat counter productive, at least in the eyes of the bystanders who will hear about it and think what a bunch of crack pots the plaintiffs are. They may not be all that far off. :D
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tripp @ Sep 21 2006, 08:57 PM) [snapback]323188[/snapback]</div>
    Political grandstanding at its worst. The vehicles sold meet all California regulations. Under this kind of pretense, couldn't everyone selling anything in CA be sued? Everything causes CO2 if you trace it back far enough, either in the harvesting, manufacturing, or end use.
     
    #7 malorn, Sep 22, 2006
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