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Cadillac blends top 2 Escalades for one really expensive hybrid

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  1. cwerdna

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    Cadillac blends top 2 Escalades for one really expensive hybrid

    "Apparently, some people think that $83,000 just isn't enough money to spend on a new Escalade. That's the sticker on the Platinum edition of the big Caddy SUV. The marketing department has decided the truck needed to move closer to 6 figures to be taken seriously. Therefore, General Motors is adding the Escalade Platinum Edition hybrid to its lineup...

    Cadillac hasn't said when the Platinum hybrid will go on sale or what it will cost. The conventional all-wheel-drive Platinum starts at almost $84,000 so adding the two-mode will likely bring the price tag close to $90,000 or more."
     
    #1 cwerdna, Mar 29, 2009
  2. dogfriend

    dogfriend Human - Animal Hybrid

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    What is the breakeven point for the Hybrid version? :madgrin:
     
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    While I laugh at the overall implementation, I will applaud that this is a FULL hybrid and not just the 36V mild assist via fan belt implementation. I'd never be in the market for something that ginormous or gluttonous. If I want to waste gas, I'll do it up in the air in something that has wings. ;)

    GM - reduce the engine size to 4 liters and the MPG may actually be respectable for a vehicle that size.

    Or, better yet - apply this same technology to your smaller cars and you may actually have a decent Aura or Malibu hybrid. A Hybrid Cobalt w/ this tech may actually be doable for GM fanboys looking for some Prius competition built in the US. I probably still wouldn't buy one, but it'd be a HUGE step in the right direction and could possibly turn your company around.
     
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  4. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Guess they need more bling in the Esclade to attract a certain crowd. I had a sticker shock when I saw the price of the Esclade because I remember a much lower price for the previous generation.
     
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    That thing'll pummel blind pedestrians.
     
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    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Hey, it's been said that for an adult, it's better to be hit by an SUV than a passenger car because the force is distributed over entire body rather than just the lower body. But of course there's the extra mass of an SUV to consider....
     
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    The part where 20 mpg is called "exceptional fuel economy" is funny. Has someone coined the term Blingmobile yet?
     
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    20mpg city . . . then you take the what . . . 16mpg freeway for an average of 18mpg? Just when I thought Wagoner couldn't out-do himself. And (as Wagoner used to say) "What about the payback period?" :cool:

    . . . . . . It delivers 20 mpg in city driving – a 50-percent city mileage improvement over non-hybrid models

    so . . . that means their non-hybrid gets a whopping 13.5mpg. what a way to hide an obscene fact.


    An electrically driven, 300-volt air conditioning compressor reduces vibration and allows the HVAC system to cool the passenger compartment even when the gasoline engine is shut off.

    wow! What'd it take ... only a DECADE or so for GM to finally get around to copying the Prius AC? (shaking head) . . . that's real progress there boys.

    But where's the Hum Vee Strech Limo full hybrid? Yea! That's what I'M wait'n for. Just think ... the non-hybrid version gets 4mpg ... so a 50% improvement would be 6mpg ... a HUGE savings! Only in the mind of a dufus.
    Is it any wonder the U.S. is heading for 3rd world status?
     
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  9. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    That's 20mpg on $4 gas if Waggoner gets what he wants. I'll bet people will be standing in line at the Caddy dealer to buy one of these.:D
     
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    No, only five years. Classic Prius has belt-driven A/C. It can still stop the engine if the compressor isn't needed at the moment, but the engine has to run to run the compressor.

    The electric A/C in 2004 and newer Prius has its own section of the inverter to produce three-phase AC (alternating current) to drive the compressor. (Some sources say single-phase, but I can see three connections named OUT-U, OUT-V and OUT-W in the wiring diagram - U, V and W are the conventional names for three phases.) The power demand of the compressor is too great to run from 12V.

    GM's EV1 had electric air conditioning.
     
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    I wonder if GM will give Wagoner one of these as a parting gift...
     
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    Just imagine if Wagoner would have scrapped the development of the Escalade Hybrid in favor of a Cobalt (or other smaller) Hybrid. Would he still have a job today?
     
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    They'll be picking pedestrian parts out of the Escalead grill! Oh, the humanity!

    Seriously I was hit on my bike by a deadbeat driving an old civic and flew over the hood. After some prompting he agreed to pay for my bike (I was relatively OK). He then "disappeared" after a token downpayment. If it had been a big-nice person Escalaed or Range Rover the driver may have been able to pay for my bike, but I probably wouldn't have been able to ride it. :(
     
    #13 subarutoo, Apr 2, 2009
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