1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

camry hybrid engine into a prius

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by 04whiteprius, Jun 9, 2008.

  1. 04whiteprius

    04whiteprius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    16
    0
    0
    Location:
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    has anyone heard of this swap? is it possible to fit the larger engine into the prius? just curious as to what people think of this idea
     
  2. V8Cobrakid

    V8Cobrakid Green Handyman

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2004
    3,790
    152
    0
    Location:
    Park View, Los Angeles, CA. U.S.A
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    there really isn't room. *shrug*

    in 04 Blitz made a custom turbo for the prius.. only to never make one again. It was too complicated for a production run.

    It's an interesting question though. :)

    but.. it make me wonder.. with engine swaps.. is the prius that much lighter than the camry?

    plus.. the camry has independent suspension...
     
  3. galaxee

    galaxee mostly benevolent

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2005
    9,810
    464
    0
    Location:
    MD
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    whew... good luck cramming a v6 in there. :eek:

    edit... oops! forgot that's still an i4- either way the extra liter of displacement is gonna make a serious challenge in fitting that in there.
     
  4. 04whiteprius

    04whiteprius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    16
    0
    0
    Location:
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    the prius weighs 2932 pounds, and the camry hybrid weighs 3680 pounds.(toyota website) the 2.4 hybrid camry engine is obviously heavier than the 1.5 prius engine, but the power to weight ratio should still be in favor of the larger engine
     
  5. miscrms

    miscrms Plug Envious Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2007
    2,076
    523
    5
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    The only swap I am aware of is the one Toyota did, with the 1.5L out of an Echo. Basically the same engine, but not Atkinson cycle which boosts the ICE from 110 to 145 hp. This is the same engine used in the Xa, Xb, and Yaris, as well as lots of JDM only cars. Turbo kits are available that should make >200hp. :D

    I'm assuming the real challenge would be the ECU. I'm assuming you can't just swap in the Echo/Scion/Yaris ECU and have everything be hunky-dory. I would bet Toyota did a custom ECU for their swap.

    Given how much hood their is on a Camry, its hard to imagine fitting that system into a Prius.

    Personally I'd like to try putting a Prius HSD into an Insight :cool: That and maybe a Camry HSD in a Mazda 5.

    Rob
     
  6. 04whiteprius

    04whiteprius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    16
    0
    0
    Location:
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    so basically its a gas engine in a prius, so no electric... intresting... i was wondering what the mpg would likely be with 2.4 camry hybrid engine since the prius weighs 600 + pounds lighter than the camry hybrid. if 0-60 is 7.7 in the camry hybrid(car & driver), you could expect low 7 second 0-60 runs in a prius!

     
  7. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2006
    18,058
    3,073
    7
    Location:
    Northern Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Why not put a second Prius engine and transaxel in the Prius? This was done with a Honda CRX a number of years ago. They took out the rear suspension and replaced it with a second engine and transaxel in the hatch area. It wasn't very practical, but I don't believe we are talking about practical ideas, are we?

    Tom
     
  8. 04whiteprius

    04whiteprius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    16
    0
    0
    Location:
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    i thought about that idea too, they also did it with an audi tt
     
  9. qbee42

    qbee42 My other car is a boat

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2006
    18,058
    3,073
    7
    Location:
    Northern Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    I remember reading about the dual-engined CRX at a gas station, why they started the engine, and then started the second engine. That gained them some confused looks. You wouldn't get that same satisfaction with a Prius, but think of the control options, since you could run on one or two electric motors, and one or two ICEs. That makes for a lot of permutations.

    Tom
     
  10. miscrms

    miscrms Plug Envious Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2007
    2,076
    523
    5
    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Nope, its still has the full hybrid transaxle, motors batteries etc. They just swapped the ICE for a less efficient but more powerful version of the same engine.

    Prius Engine: 1NZ-FXE
    Toyota NZ engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Echo/Yaris/Scion Engine: 1NZ-FE
    Toyota NZ engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Rob
     
  11. mingoglia

    mingoglia Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2007
    846
    10
    0
    Location:
    Gilbert, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Hmm, wonder how the Prius would run if I took my 6.1L out of my Jeep SRT8 and shoehorned it in there?

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Presto

    Presto Has his homepage set to PC

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2005
    1,326
    24
    0
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    All the charge in the traction battery would probably be used up cranking that motor to speed :D
     
  13. GatorJZ

    GatorJZ Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2008
    285
    17
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Easy swap....takes about 30 minutes with a 10mm wrench and a phillips head screwdriver.
     
  14. 04whiteprius

    04whiteprius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    16
    0
    0
    Location:
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    i have both of those. thanks!:rolleyes:

     
  15. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2007
    10,664
    567
    0
    Location:
    Adelaide South Australia
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    What about putting the HyHi drive train into the Camry, I think that would be an easier retrofit as they both share the same chassis. you would have a real performer with 4WD function in a very practical 4 door sedan, with good economy to boot!!
     
  16. Qlara

    Qlara New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2007
    488
    5
    0
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Forget the Camry engine swap....
    It'll be easier to drop-in another electric-motor for the Prius' rear-axle to boost forward thrust.....and it'll be made 4WD too. :D
     
    PriusRocinante likes this.
  17. 04whiteprius

    04whiteprius Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2008
    16
    0
    0
    Location:
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    that would be cool. so it basically is a 3 wheel drive car stock?
     
  18. a_gray_prius

    a_gray_prius Rare Non-Old-Blowhard Priuschat Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2008
    2,927
    782
    0
    Location:
    IL
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Isn't that what they did with the front wheels of the Hybrid Supra they were racing?

    Hybrid Toyota Supra Wins Tokachi 24-Hour race - Autoblog

    Look at that thing come out of the corner:
     
  19. V8Cobrakid

    V8Cobrakid Green Handyman

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2004
    3,790
    152
    0
    Location:
    Park View, Los Angeles, CA. U.S.A
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A


    this is an 8 minute video of the race.. note the lack of pit stop sounds and the sharp turn where the ICE shuts down... later he revs to keep it from shutting down.

    i noticed that it never "burns out"... maybe it's the same HSD.. but a larger system with gears... it would explain where the extra rpms are going...
     
  20. V8Cobrakid

    V8Cobrakid Green Handyman

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2004
    3,790
    152
    0
    Location:
    Park View, Los Angeles, CA. U.S.A
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A