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Camry Hybrid Vs Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Fuel Economy' started by b777, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. b777

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    I own a 2007 Camry Hybrid and a 2007 Prius Touring #6 and today in the Camry without the A/C on I was able to get 46 MPG without trying. Normally, the Camry gets 36-38 with the A/C, but I was really pleased with the 46. For some reason, the Prius has been stuck at 46-48 MPG. It seems in the Prius when coasting that the brakes are on compared to the Camry which feels like a regular car coast. Any one else seem to feel that the brakes are dragging in a coast in the Prius?
     
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  2. Tideland Prius

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    Could be the way the electric motors are tuned (if they are tunable lol.) i.e. how much resistance to provide.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Sep 13 2007, 10:50 PM) [snapback]512357[/snapback]</div>
    Resistance is futile!
     
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    Check your tire pressure for Prius. You should feel less drag with Prius as it has skinner tires and it is more aerodynamic. BTW, do you have OEM rim/tire?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kinsale @ Sep 14 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]512346[/snapback]</div>
    with your foot off the gas pedal in the prius the electric motor regenerates lost power ie. drag..
    also make sure you are in "D" and not "B" :blink:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kinsale @ Sep 14 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]512346[/snapback]</div>
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    with your foot off the gas pedal in the prius the electric motor regenerates lost power ie. drag..
    also make sure you are in "D" and not "B" :blink:
     
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  7. JackDodge

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kinsale @ Sep 14 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]512346[/snapback]</div>
    I like the Camry fine and would buy one if it wasn't for the fact that the backseats don't fold down so that I can get 2X4X8s and 2X6X8s in to it the way I can with my Prius. Yes, as a matter of fact, I do have to be able to do that often since I do a lot of home improvement projects that require lumber. I'd seriously think about trading in my Prius if they made the Rav4 as small as it used to be and came up with a hybrid version that got the mileage that the HyCam gets.
     
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    Nice, but there's 70+ in the Prius if you really want it.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kinsale @ Sep 14 2007, 12:02 AM) [snapback]512346[/snapback]</div>
    There similarities in how to hypermile both cars are much greater than the differences. It's all in the driver and the drive.

    If you can get 46 in a Camry, the same driving would net you 60+ in a Prius.

    There are routes where I can hit 60-70 MPG in my Camry (there AND back). But before I get too smug, I know that I would be pushing a hundred if I was driving a Prius. And at LEAST 5 MPG in a hummer :D
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JackDodge @ Sep 14 2007, 01:23 PM) [snapback]512639[/snapback]</div>
    Actually, the seats in the Camry do fold down. The problem is the pass-through is not very big due to the blower/vent system for the traction battery.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Per @ Sep 15 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]513210[/snapback]</div>
    I have take a closer look at the construction, but I have toyed with the idea of removing some of that stuff. In one whole year of ownership I have NEVER heard the fan come on. Even in 100 degree days (last summer).

    I'd probably wire some sort of buzzer to the fan circuit. That way if it ever wanted to come on I could stop and check it out.

    My real wish is that Toyota would have put run-flats on the car and put the battery pack in the spare tire well.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Per @ Sep 16 2007, 12:56 AM) [snapback]513210[/snapback]</div>
    big enough room to get, say, twelve eight foot 2X4s or eight 2X6s?
     
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  13. Tideland Prius

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(n8kwx @ Sep 16 2007, 01:43 PM) [snapback]513382[/snapback]</div>
    But run flats tyres are heavy. You gotta see if the extra weight negates the weight of the spare tyre.
     
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  14. n8kwx

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Sep 16 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]513427[/snapback]</div>
    Agreed, but the Camry Hybrid battery pack and hardware almost halves the capacity of the Camry's trunk and makes the passthrough much less usefull...
     
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  15. Tideland Prius

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(n8kwx @ Sep 16 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]513488[/snapback]</div>
    Indeed. When I heard that the Camry would be built from scratch with a hybrid in mind, I thought to myself "Excellent! That means they'll package the battery properly with minimal intrusion into the trunk space unlike current hybrid sedans."


    I do believe this is the best that they can do. I'm sure they considered other options but there needs to be easy access to the battery (which might explain why the HiHy/RX and Prius have it under the floor because those vehicles have removeable underfloor storage bins).

    Given that the Camry's a sedan, I don't think they can put an underfloor storage and would rather just lower the floor entirely and make the entire space the trunk space.

    However, do keep in mind that it is the ONLY hybrid sedan with folding rear seats (not counting the gen I Prius that was sold outside of NA). The HCH, HAH, NAH and GSh don't have folding seats.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(JackDodge @ Sep 16 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]513416[/snapback]</div>
    While I haven't tried it, I would venture to speculate yes. I carried about that many in my '96 Maxima through the rear seat center armrest pass-through.

    Another item that cuts down on trunk space is the regular vehicle battery located on the passenger side of the trunk.
     
    #16 Per, Sep 17, 2007
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