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China's Coal Burning may be related to Global Temperature dip past 10yrs

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by 2k1Toaster, Jul 5, 2011.

  1. 2k1Toaster

    2k1Toaster Brand New Prius Batteries

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    BBC: BBC News - Global warming lull down to China's coal growth


    We all know how this thread will end up but at least now there are more new factoids to be hotly contested.
     
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    Boy now I am more confused as ever. :rolleyes:
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Naaaah.
    There will be some denier out there that's going to say that the earth is actually warming.... ;)
     
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    Those sulphate aerosol particles could be an answer. Somebody better get clever fast.
     
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    I call junk science. If you look at that specific date range, you'll see global mean surface temperature dips after 1998 and in 2008.

    Data.GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: Analysis Graphs and Plots

    After 2008, there was another steep rise in temps...and looks like we're headed for another cooling temp. Since China's coal consumption is exponential, how could it account for the dip in 1998? :confused: Is it just me, or do all these temperature graphs remind you of stock market graphs?? Every index is a bit different, and even the brightest fund managers haven't been able to come up with a sure fire prediction model! ;)
     
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    Hmm... let me put out this fire by pouring gasoline on it.
     
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    so the more coal we burn, the more we reduce climate change? perfect!
     
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    No doubt... Alaska has huge coal reserves.
     
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    all we need now is a coal burning prius!
     
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    China is more of a threat to the world then any other country and no one gives a crap because the cheap stuff they make available for hungry western consumers who buy, then goodwill or trash their Chinese junk.
     
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    From another planet at this rate...
     
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    The problem is, the climate doomsdayers manage to spin EVERY new observation to claim it explains global warming. A group of 10 climate experts on NBC nightly news explained back in March that of course we should expect colder snowier winters if the climate is warming. Huh? This is exactly the opposite of their explanation before the winters got back in the last few years.

    As a environmental researcher who works with data every day, the sloppy way the climate community deals with data is appalling, and is sometimes scientific misconduct.