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Climate Control Bug

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by Twiggy Johnson, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. Twiggy Johnson

    Twiggy Johnson New Member

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    Starting a couple weeks ago, sometimes when I turn on my 2005 Prius the outside temperature reads out in Celsius instead of Fahrenheit. Entering and exiting the climate screen sets it back to Fahrenheit. This wouldn't really be a problem except that the thermostat also gets set to 75F whenever this happens. No other climate control settings get altered.

    Anyone encounter this before?

    Edit: This was supposed to go in the trouble-shooting forum. Any way to move?
     
  2. GrumpyCabbie

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    Is this a failing 12v fault or a failing climate ecu issue?

    Anyhow, what's wrong with celsius? :whistle:
     
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    I'd make some argument about the superiority of Fahrenheit, but I use Kelvin at work all the time, so converting to C is actually just one less mental conversion than I'm used to making.

    What's the normal life on the 12v batteries? I've had the car for 2.5 years and haven't replaced the battery yet. I also killed the battery twice in a week last August (because I'm awesome), so I could see it being a little long in the teeth.
     
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    The Prius 12v is often said to have a normal useful life of about 5 years. Some do manage more than this, but the 12v is the cars achilles heel. It doesn't need to be as 'strong' as a traditional car as it doesn't need to crank the engine, but because it doesn't do that, it is hard to know when it is failing. In a traditional car you will notice the car gets slower to crank on a cold morning but with a Prius the 12v just keeps booting the computer up (which sends the signal to start the car) until one morning when it just doesn't quite have the power to do so. It can also cause all sorts of weird error messages and warning lights to be displayed when failing.

    Often many weird problems are solved when the 12v is replaced, though sometimes the car could have more serious issues too. Replacing a 5+ year old 12v is a cheap fix and probably helpful even if it doesn't cure the issues. I'm not sure on the prices in the US (where you also get non Toyota alternatives to choose from), but here in the UK a genuine Toyota Prius 12v fitted by the dealer costs about £100 ($160) which includes our 20% sales tax.
     
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    JimN Let the games begin!

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    Twiggy, have you reviewed the dealer service records for your car at Toyota Owners Official Website: Service Coupons, Owners Manuals, Service Scheduling and More ? If not, register the car. You may find record of a battery swap. Check the voltage of the 12v battery on the MFD:

    Put vehicle in Ready or Acc mode (you may press EV to prevent the engine starting and wasting fuel if in Ready mode)
    Hold down the "INFO-TEL" button on the NAV
    Turn the headlamps on and off 4 times.
    The diagnostic screen appears on the NAV.
    On the first screen, press; "Function check/Setting"
    then on the second: "Vehicle signal"
    Battery voltage is the first on the list on the third screen that appears.
    This shows the voltage under load in Ready or ACC mode
    if you switch various things on/off you can see the voltage vary.
    With no load when the battery had rested for a while mine showed 14.2v in ready mode
    Switching the headlamps on it dropped to 10.4v, which shows how weak the battery capacity is. 10.4v would struggle to turn a starter motor on a conventional car. (from kithmo on toyotaownersclub)
     
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    Thanks for the info guys.

    Diagnostics screen (now why isn't that in my owner's manual?) is showing my battery at 11.9v. Looks like time for a replacement.