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Combo Meter Extended Warranty and Brake Actuator Warranty

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by m2dougherty, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. m2dougherty

    m2dougherty Junior Member

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    Yesterday morning I got the warning lights for what seems to be the brake actuator issue. We checked this morning with our usual mechanic. he is a great guy who knows a lot about Prius. He also teaches at the technical high school. He checked the diagnostics for us and got a C 1300 code. He urged us to take it to the local Toyota dealership which is where we bought the car. It is a 2008 model. The dealership is Atlantic Toyota in Lynn, MA.

    I have all of the extended warranty notices. The one for the brake actuator is good until the end of this December or ten years from when we first bought the car which will be next March. The warranty extension for the combo meter problem which is the one where your dashboard goes black and you cannot turn the car off ended last March for our car. The service gentleman who checked us in said it was up in 2013 but I assured him that the secondary coverage extended to nine years after you first drove the car. He told us that we would have to pay for that repair at a cost of $800. My husband asked him where we might express our dismay to a higher level person. He gave us a card with the information for contacting Toyota in California. We live in MA.Our usual mechanic felt that the combo meter was going. I had an issue with it a few days ago but managed to reset it by pressing the power button the several seconds and then being able to shut the car off. Then in a bit it started up and worked properly. I had this happen maybe a couple of years ago but it resolved itself and did not happen again until now. Unfortunately we did not document with Toyota at that time. I actually thought that maybe I had done something a little too quickly when I was doing the starting sequence and Had caused the problem myself. I read here to keep up on what is happening with Prius and am very grateful for the solid advice I have received here in the past.

    Our mechanic feels that they are good guys at Atlantic and that they will fix our combo meter under extended warranty as well as our brake actuator. If I have to pay for the combo meter I will likely have our guy do it as he is cheaper than the dealership and way beyond that we have a lot of faith in him. It certainly is a safety issue if you are unable to turn off a car. It is not our fault if the car has not really displayed the problem until just recently. The dashboard worked to day to get the car to our mechanic and worked once more to get it to the dealership.

    We hung out a bit at the dealership as I wanted to see the latest Prius models. A very nice salesman showed us all around the Prius Prime. He took us on a test drive in an Advance which is very impressive. I was not crazy about the interior color but the safety features are impressive. As we the the salesman we usually take a year or even two to research a new vehicle.

    We have been very happy overall with our 2008 Prius. It only has 75,000 miles on it and I was not looking for a new car. I have seen the ads about the new safety features like the blind spot warning and the collision warning.
    I am excited to see a review offered for the Prime here on Prius Chat and will be reading it with interest.

    Will let you all know how we make out with the warranty work. We are thinking of maybe giving the car to our niece after it is fixed as her car is quite old now with lots of miles on it. We usually sell our cars ourselves instead of trading them in on the new car. If any of you have any advice about how we might pursue getting our combo meter repaired under warranty please let us know. We will be very grateful.

    Michele and Mark

    Many thanks to any of you who might be able to offer us advice about getting the combo meter fixed under the now defunct extended warranty.
     
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    Interesting development with the dealership. They called to say that what is wrong with the car is that our 12 volt battery is shot. It is causing codes to come up all over the place apparently. Now our mechanic put in a new 12 volt battery for us in the spring of 2015. We have a travel trailer and leave for a couple of months at a time. We were gone for two moths last spring and another two months this fall. When we are away I turn off the smart key function and we put the battery on a trickle charger. We are going off to see our mechanic in a few minutes to get his take on this situation. We will be picking up our car at the dealership and will be paying the $112 diagnostic fee. We would rather our guy replace the battery if we have harmed it in some way by its being on the trickle charger. The service guy says that it is only at 10 volts.
    Just curious whether any of you have experience with a situation like this. I have read here in the past about the issue of letting your car sit without being run for long periods of time. If the battery is the issue then perhaps in the future we will remove the battery from the car when we go away or will that cause even more problems?

    Michele and Mark
     
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    People in colder climates seem to experience combo meter problem at greater rates than warmer climates.

    Once the combo meter problem occurs, it seems to get worse over time: frequency of occurring becomes less random, becommimg more regular. Just keep the POWER button depressed for a few seconds, until the car turns off. The totla cost of repai is relatively cheap. Contact Matt at Texas Hybrid Batt for a combo meter. Good reputation here. Texas Prius Battery Replacement

    Newish battery now going to 10V. Get it replaced under warranty. It is not unheard of a seemingly good battery going bad by itself for no valid reason (ie, left a door ajar and the doome lights drained the battery slightly). It is also possible that the trickle charge could have damaged the battery by overcharging it.

    Xmas is around the corner. Give your Prius the gift of a Smart 12V AGM compatible battery charger. The smart chargers are computer controlled and will cut off charging/trickle charging when parameters are met. It will not continue to add charge if the battery is full. A stand alone trickle charge, that is not smart, will continue to add and add, which could be a problem depending on the battery's SOC (State Of Charge) and the rate of trickle charge.

    See Post#8 for three popular Smart AGM compatible 12V battery chargers.
    Is my inverter coolant pump slowly failing? | PriusChat

    What you are currently doing to prevent a drained 12V battery whenngone a long time, is what most would do: disable SKS, connect a trickle charger. A smart charger would be best. One member does make a good point of it is not a good idea to leave a battery charger unattended for any length of time, b/c battery chargers do not have a fused 12V positive battery clamp. However, the smart chargers supposedly are able to address this. But none the less, ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    Best is probably just to disconnect the negative lead from the battery, if gone for longer than say 3 weeks. Reconnect the negative lead, and connect your smart charger top off.
     
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    Thanks for your advice. We were reading some past info here about Smart Charge this afternoon.

    Michele and Mark
     
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    I went to the Texas site and noticed that in getting a rebuilt or new combo meter you are to send them your "core". What is the core and why would they want it? It is true that paying our guy to repair our combo meter is not a big expense. Over the many vehicles we have driven during our lives we have had several far more expensive repairs. I think it is just that we dislike dealing with dealerships. I never really trust what they tell me. I have caught a couple of them them in outright lies in the past. We have been with our current mechanic around 25 years now. he has only made one error which he quickly corrected for free. He is always learning new things about the various models as they come along and maintains good relationships with the various dealer parts departments and the technical bulletins. I will be crying big tears the day he retires.

    Michele and Mark
     
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    The "core" is your old and broken CM. They want it so it can be repaired and then recycled.
     
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    Most batteries that fit the prius come with a 2 or 3 years replacement warranty. If you put in a battery in 2015, it MIGHT still be under warranty for replacement.

    But I don't believe the diagnosis from the dealer is correct. A bad battery will cause starting problems, which you have not mentioned
     
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    No problem with starting. It started right up when left for the dealer and when took it home from the dealer yesterday.

    Michele and Mark
     
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    We have the Deltran battery charger plus. It is listed on the e bay page link Exstudent posted for us.
    It does not specifically say that it is a "smart" charger. We read the specs though and it seems to work properly for the situation.
    It cost $44.

    Michele and Mark
     
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    It is true that I have not driven the car all that much since we came home. We were having work done on the house and needed to be home to make decisions as they came up and to watch our dog as the men had to open the doors and gates quite a bit. I will keep better track of how often we use it in the future and be sure to take it out more often.

    Michele and Mark
     
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    Dolj answered.

    I would still use Matt @Texas Hybrid Batteries, b/c he has been doing the repairs for some time, can program the same mileage, and offers a lifetime warranty on the combo meter. I don't know if your mechanic has the tools/ability to do the fine electrical repairs (solder capacitors/diodes/etc on a circuit board). $125 part (if you return your broken combo meter) + your mechanics labor charge will be your total repair bill.

    Ultimately, it is your choice.

    I bet both of your statements are universally true for a majority of owners.

    Maybe he has a child who will take over and possess the same qualities you like, and will hopefully have the same or competencies?
    Maybe one of the workers will buy him out, and this person is nearly like the current owner?
    Ask the current owner who he would have work on his car(s), when he doesn't have time or is no longer able to? He has to know someone in the area who has a good reputation.
     
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    Thanks, exstudent, I was not thinking that our guy would repair the part. I do not think he has any interest in doing that.
    He would install it for us. I really appreciate knowing about Texas hybrid Batteries.

    Michele Dougherty