Company won't grant PTO - what would you do?

go in swinging. :angry:

i mean... uh... n/m

can you afford the unpaid time off? we don't get much paid vacation to work with either, and that means we usually stick a couple bucks away to get us through weeks of unpaid vacation we may need to take. of course, without much time to plan for it- that's rough.

or is the situation that she doesn't want to give anyone any time off, period? in that case, even worse

sorry you're getting treated like that. hope you find a way around this stuff. hopefully someone else, who is a little more familiar with the whole "job" thing lol: says the perpetual student) will be able to lend more advice.

 

Sounds like she doesn't like you, period! Bummer.

You will never get PTO when you want it if you have to go through her. There will always be an excuse. My son-in-law had a boss like that. The job didn't last long, there were always "performance" problems, and expected bonuses/raises that didn't happen, etc, etc, etc...

Is there any one else you can work with? Who hired you? Go to them for help. If someone above her likes you, you could go to them with your problems. It probably won't solve the problems though, and she will get pissed because you jumped over her.

You or she will eventually leave the job. Probably you. Sorry.

Lisa

 

Don't have any personal advice but try doing nothing sometimes it works. Let her stew in her own juices maybe guilt will get to her and or maybe she does have a legit reason.

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http://www.quintcareers.com/bad_bosses.html
http://www.bbmcareerdev.com/bad_bosses.html
http://www.employeesurveys.com/bosses/badboss.htm

Best thoughts and prayers it can be diffcult

Wildkow

 

My advice is to forgettaboutit! Work your nice person off to make the compay a huge success and when they realize you are indispensible you can name your own tune. It takes time and effort but is well worth it. And there is no such thing as a free lunch.

 

as you all work from your home office if I was you I inform her that the office move to SLC. I also tend to be a hard case when it comes to "pills". Rent a Blackberry and use your cell. Your in constant contact with HQ and the customer that needs your services. She'd probably never notice your not in your "office".

 

Well, you haven't been working there that long. Since September? Six months? A lot of companies don't give you any leave at all until you've been there a year.

It doesn't bode well that your direct superior, who is also a partner in the company, won't do anything for you. What you told them about this when they hired you doesn't really mean anything, as you can now see. You didn't get it in writing so you don't have any leverage there.

As for the boss making the decisions....don't hold out any hope there either. I don't think there is anything you can do that will change her perceptions. I doubt you'll ever get a week of paid leave at any time. Unless you have a contract of some kind that entitles you to holidays or has a formula for paid leave, I doubt you'll get them. And if you do, they probably won't be when you want them.

As for working hard to impress her and earn some consideration...don't hold your breath. She doesn't respect you now and that probably won't change.

You could either work from "home" that week as suggested or you could get the "flu". If you got sick that week and they know that's the week you wanted off....well, that could bite you in the Londonderry Aire. You could just take off Thursday and Friday just for the actual games. If you work at home, they might not even realize you are gone.

Is this your dream job? Do you love it? Because I think at some point you are going to be looking to move on to something else or at least to work for someone else. Maybe at some point start your own business or work as an independent consultant?

 

Have you set a date for your wedding yet? Are you going to have the same kind of problem arranging time off for your honeymoon?

This sounds like a bad situation all around. If it were me, I'd be simultaneously looking for ways to improve relations with the managing partner and checking out other employment options.

 

This is bad news. It's actually a control freak kind of thing. She likely doesn't feel that your basketball viewing is worthwhile. (Neither do I, but that's another matter entirely).

There are only two ways to make an employee happy, pay them a lot, or make their work environment very pleasant. She has missed the second one; I hope she is on target on the first one.

Nate

 

I read that peak flu month is February... but can run late & into the month of March... and last 5 days or more.

 

Okay, I have zero experience with this kind of thing, but I gotta toss in my two cents worth:

It sounds like you have a bad work environment. This particular 5-day holiday is important to you and this woman does not like you and does not want to give it to you.

Consider: Is your being at home on the job really important to the company? Is she being reasonable in thinking that the company could suffer if you were not available? Or is her position really unreasonable?

Consider: Is the pay good enough that you are willing to give up your traditional NCAA holiday for it?

Consider: Given the unpleasant work environment and your present financial situation (whatever it may be) are you willing to give up this job and begin looking for another? (How hard would it be for you to find another suitable job?)

If you are willing to give up the job, you are in a position to give an ultimatum: "I was given to understand I'd be able to take this holiday, and I'm taking it. I'm resigning my job effective March 11. I'll be back on March 19, and if you want to hire me back, I want X number of dollars salary."

If you are not willing to give up the job, they have you over a barrel. Considering how short a time you've had the job, are you willing to pass up your holiday this year in hopes of better relations in the future? Or is this woman so clearly antagonistic that you have no hopes of improvement?

If the latter is the case, you probably should start looking for a better job. And if you can't afford to lose this one, you'll have to miss the holiday.

That's just how I break down your options.

I wish you the best of luck. I've had good bosses and bad bosses. A good boss can make even cleaning out the milk parlor tolerable. A bad boss takes the fun out of even an enjoyable job. My sympathies lie with the IWW.

 

I'd ask for details on the open position, except I'm not masochistic...

 

Congrats Danny!

I wish you well and I think you did the right thing.

 

yup sometimes pills are hard to swallow. I've lived and died by my decisions about jobs in my life and I'm here now and enjoying it and in retrospect I took my road and wouldn't have change the route at all. My father in law asked the wife one time if I had a job and she said yes he's got a good job and his answer was if it's a job it's no damn good. I always like him, too bad he's gone now, but like I said it was my road. You'll find another and hopefully it'll be better than this one. Enjoy the games......... your decision, stands, by my standards.

 

Wow, congrats Danny.

my $0.02? Sometimes jobs are just shit for you. The job market isn't that bad these days, and losing your sanity over a bad job because you "don't want to rock the boat" or "things will get better" is a losing proposition (unless you have hard data to back up that feeling).

I quit my previous job back in Dec (tho I had something else lined up), and haven't looked back. The place was OK, but I had a fundamental disagreement about the company and their strategy, and knew that I didn't want to fight to keep a job I couldn't stomach.

Life now? Great, and getting better. It took a while to get past the low self-esteem of dealing with a job that didn't align with my principles, but I'm literally much happier now.
Lost weight, get more sleep and feel 2x as productive.

So good for you and let us know how things go after your NCAA trip

 

Good luck, Danny!
What was their response when you turned in your resignation?

 

You probably took care of it quick rather than waiting around for her to really make your life miserable or trying to get you fired. Personally, I would have gone to her in person and said something along the lines of 'do you have some problem with me?' But it's difficult when someone further up the totem pole doesn't like you. It makes things a lot harder than they need to be.

 

First Congratulations Danny!!!
This is kind of funny. A lady at my job resigned today because she was denied vacation as well. She had other reasons to leave also.

Good luck