Dealer puts a wrong oil filter

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  1. dasb

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    Hi everyone, happy thanksgiving. I was planning to do an oil change today since the free two years maintenance ended early this year. After jacking up my Prius Prime and taking off the oil pan plastic cover, I found out that my dealer put a wrong oil filter for my car. They used Toyota 90915-YZZF2 oil filter which I looked up on amazon and it doesn't fit Prius Prime!
    Now my plan is going to contact the dealer tomorrow to file a claim and ask them to fix it. But I also worry about whether this wrong filter will damage my car.
    Does this happen to anyone? Image.jpeg Image2.jpeg

     
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    What car is that on? Look at one of the on-line Toyota dealership parts sites for the filter for that car.

    In some cases the number on the filter also refers to the source where the filter was made (Toyota does not make oil filters). There can be more than one filter number to properly fit an engine. Don't trust Amazon as the only source of info.
     
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    As @PT Guy kindly points out, Amazon’s information isn’t reliable.

    Toyota’s own Oil Filter Application Chart (PDF) lists two part numbers for Prius Prime oil filters: 04152-YZZA6, if the the car uses the element type (a paper element that goes in a reusable cap), or 90915-YZZF2, if the car uses the cartridge type (a traditional filter in a metal can). Catalog Figure 15-02, Oil Filter, gives the same numbers.

    The 90915-YZZF2 part was recently superseded by 90915-YZZN1; both of these parts are Genuine Toyota replacements, in the U.S. market, for the original production part, 90915-10003, which can also be replaced with 90080-91058, 90080-91085, 90915-CA002, or 90915-TA001, available in other regions.
     
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    So, from what Elektroingenieur posted, looks like you have the correct filter and no problem. Do you plan to buy the replacement from the Toyota dealer or your local auto parts store?
     
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    I usually get Toyota brand filters sold on Amazon. Although sold by dealers the price there is usually lower than direct.
     
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    Toyota 90915-YZZF2 (made in Thailand) is the correct oil filter for all Priuses and most Toyota cars from now going back to 1980s if not earlier that take a spin-on oil filter, including Corolla, Camry, etc. It has been there for a long time. Only some SUVs, trucks, and diesel engines use different spin-on oil filters. Likewise most Toyotas use the same oil drain plug gasket (90430-12031), except some trucks and SUVs use a larger gasket.

    2020 Toyota Prius Prime HYBRID Engine Oil Drain Plug Gasket - 9043012031 - Genuine Toyota Part


    Toyotas made in Japan come with the 90915-10003 spin-on oil filter made in China instead of the 90915-YZZF2 made in Thailand. The two oil filters are virtually identical.

    Interesting. This must be very recent, within the last few months. 90915-YZFF2 is being shown to have been superseded by 90915-YZZN1 on the Toyota parts catalog. I wonder what the difference is. Someone will have to cut it open. Nevertheless, 90915-YZZF2 will still work if that is what is available.

    2020 Toyota Prius Prime HYBRID Filter sub-assembly, oil. Block, cylinder. Engine, partial - 90915YZZF2 - Genuine Toyota Part


    As a general rule of thumb, any spin-on oil filter that properly fits on the threads and flange and fits in the physically available space is the correct oil filter. There is no such thing as wrong oil filter as long as it mechanically fits on the threads, flange, and available space. Moreover, unlike some people think, the oil-filter bypass-valve pressure spec only pertains to the oil filter and it is not a spec pertaining to the engine; so, you don't need to worry about it—it is there to protect the oil filter and engine when the oil filter is clogged and it only depends on the oil-filter media type and size, not the engine. You can fit hundreds if not thousands of aftermarket oil filters of different sizes and brands on a Prius, and you won't notice a difference in the performance. Therefore, rest easy. However, if you install a larger spin-on oil filter, make sure to add more engine oil, increasing with the oil-filter size, according to the additional physical volume of the oil filter.

    Some cartridge oil filters are tricky though. There has been engine damage reported in some German luxury cars where a cartridge oil filter without a unique rod or a different rod was installed. So, if you have have a cartridge oil filter, be more careful, especially in those rare cases with unique mechanical properties.
     
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    Those pics of the spin on makes it look like the spin on is easier to get at than the cartridge is.
    Not that the cartridge is hard, but it looks like it's way easier to line up the spin on than it is the cartridge container / filter cover, from the pics anyways.
     
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    A spin-on oil filter is more convenient and less likely to have a mess-up leading to engine damage. That's why Toyota has switched back to a spin-on oil filter. Moreover, with a spin-on oil filter, you have a selection of hundreds oil-filter types, sizes, and brands that will fit your engine.
     
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    You didn't say what filter "amazon" recommended? That would be important to know. It is possible "amazon" is recommending a cartridge style filter--Genuine Toyota Parts - Replaceable Element (04152-YZZA6)

    Gen 2 Prius used the spin on filters. Then in Gen 3 and early Gen 4, Toyota switched to cartridge style filters. At some point, Toyota retrofitted the spin on type filters to Gen 4 and Prime, I guess. Also, your picture shows a car with the entire underbelly plastic cover removed. This is not necessary when changing oil. There is a small panel with three plastic fasteners that is all that is needed to access the drain plug and oil filter.

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    Toyota is apparently phasing out the cartridge oil filter and reverting to the spin on canister.

    This would probably be the result of so many issues and complaints about the plastic cap.

    The reason that some new cars will still be equipped with the cartridge might be due to old contracts or remaining inventory of the cartridge components.
     
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    As pointed out above by others, you DO have a correct Genuine Toyota OEM oil filter for your Prius Prime. The confusion comes from the fact that 2017 Prius Prime initially came with element type oil filter 04152-YZZA6, as pointed out by @Elektroingenieur. However this was changed in the mid model year so that later date manufactured 2017 Prius Prime and PP after 2018 model year are now using the canister type oil filter 90915-YZZF2. Those two filter systems are not interchangeable, although as mentioned by @Mendel Leisk the conversion is possible.

    Your 2017 Prius Prime came with the spin-on type oil filter 90915-YZZF2 which is a correct OEM filter. So don't worry. You are OK.
     
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    Note that 90915-YZZF2 is no longer available for order from Toyota. It has been superseded by 90915-YZZN1.
     
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    I am sure you can still find and buy 90915-YZZF2 many stores where stocks are available. The point is that OP has a correct oil filter installed and any subsequent superseded oil filter will work on his car.
     
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    Of course, this has already been said by everyone on this thread. You can even use older superseded oil filters such as 90915-YZZA2 if you find them buried somewhere. I've even made the point that there is no such thing as an incorrect oil filter as long as it mechanically fits and you can use hundreds of different types and sizes of aftermarket oil filters. However, the updated Toyota oil filter is 90915-YZZN1, which has now superseded 90915-YZZF2 in the US. Therefore, everyone needs to be aware of this and not get shocked. I am also guessing that 90915-YZZN1 is an improved design with better filtering efficiency and capacity over 90915-YZZF2, which was a mediocre oil filter, largely inferior to some high-end synthetic aftermarket oil filters such as the medium-size Fram Ultra XG3614 or oversized Fram Ultra XG3600 (if the latter is not too tall to fit in the available space).

    If you are unsure about a part number, whether it is superseded or not, you can always check it here:

    Toyota Parts and Accessories - Official Online Store

    It is the ultimate authority on correct Toyota parts for your vehicle.
     
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    I had no problem buying a genuine Toyota cartridge cap on Amazon to replace the one that had been mangled by previous service people, and I bought a Fram XG10358(?) cartridge at our local supermarket.
     
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    I have 2 - contact me if you want... lol vin check 2 years ago.....
    Good point
    I also have - let me go look and maybe even find the pic -- two 04152-YZZA1 which is what my 2014 PiP used, if memory serves.

    Can you imagine the look on my face when I tried to put the 04152-YZZA1 in the filter cover of our Prime?
    That's when I started taking measurements and pics of the paper filter.

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    fyi: the only way I could find so far to beat the dealer price for 04152-YZZA6 (just under $6) online with (free or +) shipping was to buy 10 or more.

    Thanks for the pic @FuelMiser
     
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    Are you sure that was for your 2014 PiP? My 2015 Gen 3 used the element type filter 04152-YZZA6 which was the same element type filter used on my 2017 Prius Prime. Yeah, you are correct about the only way to buy cheaper than the dealer price was to buy in bulk. I purchased a case of 04152-YZZA6 filter for Gen3, and used a few on my 2017 PP, but now I can't use them on my 2020 PP. I have a half doz 04152-YZZA6 filters to give away if anyone wants them. Yap, I didn't save any on the filter cost. That's why I am going to buy only one filter at a time for my 2020 PP when I need it. That's not until after the free Toyota Care runs out in two years.
     
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    This is why I don't hoard oil or oil filters. LOL

    The original Prius Plug-in Hybrid apparently takes large oil filters. It shows four different oil filters: a spin-on oil filter for the 1980s trucks, a spin-on oil filter for the 1980s vans, a cartridge oil filter for the new Supra (and possibly new trucks), and best of all—a spin-on oil filter for the rare diesel 1985 Corolla with the 1C-LC engine. Rare, unusual, and experimental cars have rare and unusual oil filters.
     
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    I don't think I will need to purchase any oil or oil filter for my 2020 PP. The chances are that I will trade it in next year for 2021 PP for a profit.
     
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