Did I get a Strike after I picked up this spare?

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    So I bought a used 2016 Prius Trim Level Four Touring, it was the best deal out there available to me at the time. I really do enjoy the car but as stated in previous posts the lack of a spare is frustrating. I wanted a spare and the foam deck pieces to make it as OEM as possible but the costs are very high. I did just get a spare on ebay that matches the size described in the owners manual and the listing said its good for 2016-2022. I took a few pictures. If anyone has a OEM spare in one of the lower trim levels is this an "actual" Prius spare. The tire is a Falken, not sure if there's a certain brand Toyota uses or not. Also I'm thinking of just doing like a hardboard/plywood cover over the spare in lieu of the costly foam pieces. If there's any "new" opinions on this or any suggestions or do's and don'ts please let me know thank you. 20230122_113728.jpg 20230122_113735.jpg
     
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    Sorry for my poor sentence structure on the previous post. I was asking if anyone has a lower trim level Gen 4 with an actual spare tire, is the pictured spare indeed a Prius OEM spare. I also just got word from the seller on EBay that this tire came from a 2021 Prius
     
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    Kinda hard to identify whether or not spare wheel's OEM from a few photos. Why not check with a local junkyard? You might be able to get the deck pieces at the same time
     
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    I'm trying and most of them don't inventory those specific part numbers or those things are just thrown away. I will most probably end up calling local yards and asking if they have a Gen 4 in their yard
     
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    Try installing it?

    it’s not the tractor yellow of our 3rd gen spare, but looks “stock”: not an oversized hub opening or extra lug nut holes (per a lot of aftermarket spare rims).

    FWIW the 3rd gen 16” temp spare is also compatible.
     
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    I read what you said about the 3 gen spare AFTER I traded my Gen 3 in without taking it out. I may just see about fitting it on before I stow it away. Thanks
     
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    After I received my compact spare that I got on Ebay, I decided to stow it underneath and use some plywood to cover the tire. I used two pieces so that it would be easier to remove, after some extra trimming after some poor measurements on my part I was able to get a fit I like. I removed the foam and left the clips in so the "upper deck" still had something to connect to. I was happy with what I did until I realized the two pieces of foam and the backside of the handle that are attached to the underside of the upper deck. Now I have about 3/4 of an inch gap between the plywood and the upper deck. I am hoping to find a large enough piece of hard foam that same height to level to place on top of the plywood to even everything out. I would have to cut out the shapes of the existing foam and handle on the underside of the upper deck. If anyone has any suggestions on what to use or where to get some products that will work, or a different idea all together let me know. I opted for this for now so that I could keep the original foam intact and because the foam pieces for the compact spare, OEM are hard to find used and cost prohibitive if bought new. I have included some pictures in this post of what I have done so far.
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    My husband's dad and I tried many different jacks over the years. Their latest development is using a widely available 18 pound 2 ton trolly jack widely available everywhere. The one pictured ia a $33 WalMart Hyper Tough brand.

    After pulling the pin and removing the swivel cup, they installed the custom "knife edge" standing seam pinch weld adapter on top pinned in the same was as the original.

    It's now completely stable, simple and easy to use.
     
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    Thank you very much for that information and checking I've used the OEM jacks on previous Prius models yes they do leave something to be desired
     
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    Toyota’s scissor jack has a single eyelet crank connection, cast out of very soft metal. It’s very unstable as you crank.

    Honda’s crank connection is a U-shaped bent plate with two eyelets, spaced about 20 mm apart, and better quality steel. Stays much more steady.
     
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    Toyota's scissors jack, however, does match closely to the pinch welds on the car. The "universal" jacks don't. They will put dents into the lifting contact area which is the PAD that is inboard from the standing seam. toyota scissors jack.jpg Highlander pinch weld 3.jpg

    When the Gen 4 Prius with the TNGA chassis was introduced, the pinch weld had a rounded jack contact area and a different shallow slot jack. Since then, Toyota has added a vertical blade to the jacking point, so that the standard Toyoda scissors jack that I have posted in the photo.
     
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    ^ Yeah I used the scissor jack on a rear corner of our 2010 once; promptly dimpled the sheet metal.

    Borrowing your pic of the Toyota-style scissor jack:

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    And comparing to Honda-style:

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    It's easy to see why the Toyota jack is unstable when you're cranking.
     
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    Yeah, I have dents from failed test articles trials, too. Those mistakes were a valuable learning experience in developing a true no damage jacking adapter. That's the one that you see in my photo.
     
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    My idea is to get a sheet of foam to place over the plywood and cut out slots for the tools much like the OEM foam inserts. I will probably carry the Toyota OEM jack because of its compactness but I do have a small trolley jack to use in my garage. I'm looking to get a full sheet of foam to cut out to the shape of the boards and then use whatever is available to fill in around the tire under the plywood. These seems similar to other things I've seen. Again, if there are any other ideas out there, please let me know.
     
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    Since you're test installing the new spare, may as well go ahead and use the jack that you're planning on carrying.
    My last new car (2020) came with a spare and one of the first things I did the first time I rotated the tires was install the spare tire with the spare tire jack.
    That way, when I'm on the side of the road, at 0-dark-30, in the rain, in a sketch neighborhood I at least know I know that I can change the tire and get on with life.

    Good Luck!
     
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    Have you tried building your foam insert using a canister of expandable insulation foam?
    That spare is spot on. Here is mine.

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    Thank you PaulDM that's exactly what I was looking for someone to go to the extra mile and visually check the OEM spare in their vehicle. Thank you again.
     
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    The spare tire situation and the ability to fix a flat reminds me of the situation my dad was in, when the tire had a blow out to a really dangerous neighborhood at night. These were the days before cell phones, when one could call for assistance quickly.

    My dad always taught me to be prepared for most all situations.

    He conveniently had a trolly floor jack in the back of his van.

    It took him only 10-15 minutes to change the tire and he was out of the really dangerous area of town.

    AAA, if he had it, would have maybe taken up to an hour or longer. He would have been towed and had to take a taxi home, if he had no spare.

    It just makes me think of always having a spare and a good quick and easy to use jack.
     
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