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Dimmable Dome light in Prius with 1 Watt Xenon White high powered LED

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by usbseawolf2000, Mar 20, 2007.

  1. usbseawolf2000

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    I bought a pair of 1 Watt Xenon White high powered LEDs for $8.30 shipped.

    I installed one in the middle (front dome) and tested out if it is dimmable by opening and closing the driver door. It works like a charm!! These LED bulbs will reverse polarity so there is no wrong way to insert it.

    [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2455893591867977943&hl=en"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=24...77943&hl=en[/ame]

    After I installed them to driver and passenger dome, I made another video of how they compare to the original center (door trigger) bulb. The replaced bulbs are 5 Watts each.

    [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6690298973566853401&hl=en"]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...53401&hl=en[/ame]

    They are well worth the price. I bought them from the seller name "warden_jp2002". I got it on the 6th business day. I ordered more LEDs from him to replace lights.

    If anyone is interested, I can give you the bulb types since I opened checked already. When I get my second order, I will make more videos.
     
  2. Bill Merchant

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    Are the new lamps much whiter and brighter? It's hard to tell in a video shot with auto-aperture and auto-whitebalance. Where did you get them?
     
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    Looks like warden_jp2002 is a seller of LEDs on eBay, but I didn't see a link for this one. Looks very nice. I've seen some LED replacements at Pep Boys, but not for this.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill Merchant @ Mar 20 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]409286[/snapback]</div>
    They are much whiter and has a very tiny slight blue tint. Maybe because my eyes are so used to the yellow light. I don't have a good pic but will post what I have. They may help and can give some idea.

    Yes, I got them from ebay.
     

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    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    wow impressive. Darell, what are your thoughts on this?
     
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    got a part number/spec anything to help us find just what we need?
     
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    usb, are you going to investigate new LEDs for the steering wheel?
     
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    Nice mod! Hope to see them at the next LIPOG meet.

    What was the item number from EBAY?
     
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    After some looking around at the seller, I found these LEDs 1W high power Led Xenon for $8.30. I am thinking they might be it, but says only 2 available.

    Could these be used for the rest of the lights (hatch area, backseat light, and vanity lights)? If so, I might have try and replace all of them. I wanted to get Darrell's but couldn't swing the price (rather couldn't convince the wife about the price).

    EDIT: Found several others with varying amounts availabe 1, 2, or 3. All are buy it now. There are different 1w's too: refractor, wide angle, flank, fog, which are $8.30 or less. I don't understand, what does all this mean? :D
     
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    LEDs are brigth but very directional. So they make them in different type to try and make it work for a whole host of applications. The flank is one that mounts the LEDs at a 90 degree angle, refractor makes the light shine 180 degrees, but is still not as bright as a regular blub, wide angle is similar but has more LEDs mounted firing sideways to emulate a regular bulb. You have to know what application you're using so you know what type LED you'll need.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(micheal @ Mar 21 2007, 12:22 PM) [snapback]409568[/snapback]</div>
    You found the right item for the 168 size. I got those same one set. I tried one 168 bulb in the door courtesy light (picture above), the bulb was not pointing right. I ordered the flank version so the light outputs in the right direction.

    For the cargo, vanity mirror and rear dome light, I am trying out one of the Festoon bulbs. The right length is 31mm but the cargo one can take longer one due to the way it mounts. I ordered 41mm 2 Watts to try out since I need more light in the cargo. I'll post update when I got new LED bulbs.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill Merchant @ Mar 20 2007, 09:02 PM) [snapback]409286[/snapback]</div>
    If you watch the video with sound, you can tell the color changing are due to my other hand playing around with the switch to show the differences in color. It is not the camera balancing white.
     
  12. Tideland Prius

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    Yeah, the colour change is noticeable.

    dome is DE3175, cargo is DE3022
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(usbseawolf2000 @ Mar 21 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]409643[/snapback]</div>
    Glad I'm on the right track. Looking forward to hearing your other updates on how it works in the other areas of the car.


    I am trying to decide between the regular LED and the refractor. It says the refractor has four leds pointing to the side, so I think those are probably not going to be good for the dome lights. (ie one side would go in all directions and might be hard to have on while driving, plus not as much light would go down). It's hard to tell from the seller pics.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Mar 21 2007, 03:17 PM) [snapback]409661[/snapback]</div>
    I couldn't find those numbers on the seller's site, is that the Toyota part?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(micheal @ Mar 21 2007, 08:43 PM) [snapback]409885[/snapback]</div>
    For the front dome center bulb, I am going with this one. You want the bulb pointing down as the dome light cover refracts light.

    3022 - Festoon 31 mm
    3175 - Festoon 31mm or 36 mm

    For the cargo light, it looks like it can take longer bulb (metal contact arm seems flexible) so I ordered this 42mm 2 Watt version.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Orf @ Mar 21 2007, 02:43 AM) [snapback]409430[/snapback]</div>
    Yea, I want to see if I can get brighter replacement and maybe even different color. :D

    I might install some blue LEDs for the foot wells since they are so cheap! I gotta look around for multi-color LEDs that can change color with a remote.
     
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    I took some more picture tonight. The actual is not as white or blue like in pictures below.... it is somewhere in between. Note that my windows are tinted. All pics are taken with only two LEDs on.

    Any suggestion from camera expert?
     

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Texas911 @ Mar 21 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]409627[/snapback]</div>
    Thanks for the info.


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(usbseawolf2000 @ Mar 21 2007, 11:31 PM) [snapback]409921[/snapback]</div>
    I went with the 1w , the 12 LED Wide Angle for the dome center, and the 31mm white festoon for the cargo (I wanted to make sure it fit and it was a $1 cheaper). After shipping it was $20.80 for all 5 bulbs. Guess I will have an extra wide angle, although maybe I can put in the dome center and 1 in the back dome.

    BTW, I found these at 7 color 44m Festoon LEDS at another seller for 5.49 francs (I am not sure which francs, but it is in Ireland). The description says the colors gradually fade from one color to next. Not sure if that is what you are looking for.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(usbseawolf2000 @ Mar 22 2007, 01:49 AM) [snapback]409983[/snapback]</div>

    Definitely look brighter than stock. I'm no expert on how to get a better color in the pics.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(micheal @ Mar 21 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]409885[/snapback]</div>
    Sylvania.com will tell you the part number.

    http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProducts/A...placementGuide/
     
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    I really want to do this, but I took my lamps out and measured them:

    dome is DE3175 and is 31mm

    cargo is DE3022 and is 28 mm

    vanity lights are also DE3022, 28mm

    3mm is about 1/8"

    So my question is, do the 31mm lamps fit in the cargo and vanity lights? Did you get flank festoons? Did that 42mm festoon fit anywhere?
     
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    I just wanted to say thanks to you guys for putting so much effort into this thread. Made my outfitting many many times easier!

    Hybrid on!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Mar 20 2007, 08:38 PM) [snapback]409391[/snapback]</div>
    Well, I have some (I buy just about every LED product that comes out - you should see my collection!). For the price you don't have much to lose. They are reasonably bright, and when they point in the correct direction, they provide enough light for the task. There is precious little heat sink, and zero regulation (which is why they dim, of course). If you're lucky, they'll last long enough to make it worth your while. While they're working, you get good bang for your buck. I just haven't had much luck in keeping them working.

    I suppose the obvious comparison would be to the modules that I was making. These draw about 20% more power and produce about 50% less light. The energy is thrown away as heat in the dropping resistor. They'll get plenty hot. I don't even want to know what the junction temp is! But hell, I can barely buy the raw LEDs for the price of these complete units.

    For those wanting to know what bulb fits where - I spent some effort (as did others who helped catch my mistakes!) compiling that info here:
    http://evnut.com/prius_bulbs.htm

    Please note that the Syvania site is not complete or totally accurate.