DNC Congress Says No To Voter Fraud Prevention

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Jul 20 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]482446[/snapback]</div>

As you can see it was defeated . . . <_< :angry:

Wildkow
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Mainly because voter ID's don't so much prevent fraud as disenfranchise existing voters.

http://www.aarp.org/bulletin/yourlife/voter_id.html
But critics say the requirement is unnecessary: Election fraud where one person votes in place of another is rare. A sponsor of the Texas bill could not cite one example of such fraud in that state. Nor did Georgia and Indiana pass their laws because of reports of people impersonating registered voters.

...AARP's Georgia office, for example, found that more than 150,000 older Georgians who voted in the last election—when 17 forms of identification were acceptable—do not have driver's licenses and are unlikely to have other forms of government-issued photo IDs.

...A number of minority lawmakers say the photo ID requirement is a sly variation of the disreputable poll tax a handful of states once charged voters because they wanted to discourage poor blacks from casting ballots.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Jul 20 2007, 04:05 PM) [snapback]482446[/snapback]</div>

As you can see it was defeated . . . <_< :angry:

Wildkow
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Why would you support making it more difficult for any qualified American to vote?
GOP is actively targeting legal voters who happen to be poor.
Its the same vein of reasoning that the GOP used to block Motor Voter laws allowing working class people to register to vote at the DMV.
The GOP makes a farce of Democracy.

 

If the GOP cares about voter fraud, why don't they go after Tim Griffin & the RNC who set up caging lists in the last election? HUH?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Jul 20 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]482446[/snapback]</div>

As you can see it was defeated . . . <_< :angry:

Wildkow
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dragonfly @ Jul 20 2007, 06:09 PM) [snapback]482481[/snapback]</div>

The concern isn't "voter fraud," it's ELECTION FRAUD. When you have voting machines built by companies whose CEO's are heads of the Republican party and PROMISE to deliver votes to Bush, you have to start to wonder.

When people who chose voting machines were elected to office using machines from a company they once worked for, you have to wonder.

When voting machines are all electronic with NO AUDIT TRAIL, you have to wonder.

When people are convicted of negligent misconduct for mishanlding recounts in Ohio, you have to wonder.

"Voter" fraud is very, very different from ELECTION fraud.

Election fraud is a real and ongoing concern.

Throughout the last 4 elections (both presidential and midterm), voters have been discouraged and disenfranchised. The primary cause of this is REPUBLICAN shenanigans ranging from putting out lies (such as telling people they would be ARRESTED if they showed up to vote), to having people manning precincts in known Democratic districts with orders to challenge EVERY voter, thus forcing them to use a provisional ballot which would never actually be counted. There also cases of thousands upon thousands of people being barred from voting because of inaccurate lists of alleged felons (mostly in Florida).

The fact is, the election reform concern lies with making sure that every vote counts, that there is a real, auditable trail of all votes, and that EVERY voter has the right to vote without hindrance.

 

Yay! The Democrats are doing something right!

The big issue, as has been pointed out, is not voter fraud but election fraud (ie, districts in Ohio where more people voted Republican than there were registered voters).

The whole point is not making voting HARDER, it's making it EASIER. These worthless cards? They'd make it harder. I would have voted against them, too.

And I'd vote for manditory paper trails for electronic voting machines.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(etawful @ Jul , 06:52 PM)</div>

You are right! I stand corrected!