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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by Flying White Dutchman, Nov 16, 2008.

  1. Flying White Dutchman

    Flying White Dutchman Senior Member

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    anyone now the power use of the standard headlight and more Efficient replacements:)
     
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    If you'te comparing the standard halogens to the hID bulbs, the HID's use a lot less power. I don't remember how much, but someone else here will let you know.
     
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    Getting a set of HIDs.... from a US Junkyard... assuming you're LHD (otherwise it'll blind oncoming traffic). Otherwise, we're kinda stuck.
     
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    Standard halogens are only 55 W each on low beam. It is my understanding that the HID's use 35 W each (please correct me if this is in error.) So by changing to HID one could reduced consumption by about 40 W. Don't forget that other lights will be on when the headlights are, so the total with halogens and running lights is ~135 W while with HID it would be about 95 W.

    I wouldn't want the HID's as they are too expensive if there are any problems. But to look at it another way, at home I would swap out fixtures for ones that can take standard CFL's if I was saving ~40 watts and the conversion was less than about $20...of course this depends on how many hours it is used per day and your electric cost. It's pretty easy to justify CFL's themselves (especially now that per bulb cost is way down), but changing fixtures is trickier/more expensive problem, although a no brainer if you are remodeling and changing the fixture anyway. On that sort of basis the HID system is also out.
     
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    H4 halogen bulbs consume 5 Amps on low beam and 7 Amps on high beam. HIDs consume about 3 Amps on either high or low (same single light emitter).

    Total draw is of course double the above as there are two lamps.

    I'm not aware of any "more efficient" halogen bulbs. There isn't much you could do to improve their efficiency, other than operating them at a higher temperature, but that would greatly shorten their life (and make them "bluer"). One day we may see LED headlamps, but I think they are still a few years off. You can get them now, but only if you have a LOT of money. They are still "experimental".
     
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    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    Lexus LS600h uses LED headlamps, but the wattage is greater than halogen lamps.
    Maybe, we'll see LED headlamps on the 2010 Prius.

    Ken@Japan
     
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    The lexus is only daylight running light here
    Vw uses led also for night! on there..... new A4 if i am not mistaken!

    i dont like it! there so bright... to bright.

    i already replaced my backlights with led from 5x2=10wats to 1x2=2watts and the same with the parking lights with lower watts leds
     
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    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    I don't know the Dutch one, but the UK Lexus LS600h has the LED low-beam headights for night drive.
    LEXUS - LS - EQUIPMENT LIST

    Ken@Japan
     
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    Light Emitting Diode (LED) low-beam headights

    HID (High Intensity Discharge) bi-xenon headlights with auto-levelling


    from your link.

    so daylight and citylights are LED but normal headlights are HID and not LED
     
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    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    I use low-beam headights 99.99% of time at night.
    How about you?

    Ken@Japan
     
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    I assume that is for a 12 V system rather than the ~200 V system of the Prius. When talking about power usage I'm hesitant to give amps without stating the voltage.
     
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    thats against the law here
     
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    Say what? Driving around with your high beams on with any traffic around is against the law here.

    About the only times I use high beams are on rural roads, and even then it is pretty rare since I'm accustomed to not using them.
     
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    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    Same here in Japan.
    Dutch law is strange, or his comment is strange.
    Which one is true?

    Ken@Japan
     
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    I suspect this is some sort of miscommunication/language or terminology difference. Perhaps he was referring to DRL's or fog lamps or even the parking lights rather than normal low beams? There is that autoleveling feature to consider as well, maybe he was thinking of some aspect of that? I'm not familiar with European lighting regs though.
     
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    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    I believe we use "low-beam headights" world-wide in English.

    Ken@Japan
     
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    miscom!
    the ls600h gor HID and LED
    HID are for lowbeam and highbeam or not?
    so then i was thinking the LED are only for DLR..and i was thinking your ment by lowbeam DLR or city/parking-lights
     
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    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    I can see "Light Emitting Diode (LED) low-beam headights" on the UK LS600h site as you quoted post #9.

    Ken@Japan
     
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    whe use the words city-lights for low beam
    city light not meaning parking lights
    i was confused and thinking lowbeam = parking/drl or something
     
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    ken1784 SuperMID designer

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    So, how do you call the lower beam of headlights used for normal night drive switched by one on the following picture?

    Ken@Japan
     

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