Error messages - "Visit your dealer"

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  1. Billy sharpstick

    Billy sharpstick Junior Member

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    My 2019 Prime started displaying these warnings when I started the car yesterday. The brakes felt fine, but before we got on the highway we decided to take it back home and take the other car.
    "Braking Power Loss
    Stop in a safe place
    See owner's manual
    Lane Departure Alert Malfunction
    Pre-Collision alert malfunction
    ABS system malfunction
    Visit your dealer"
    I plugged a cheap FIXD OBD reader and got C0514. The app couldn't identify the code, and google was not helpful.
    We're calling the dealer tomorrow morning and probably carefully drive it in.
    Any ideas?
     
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    schja01 One of very few in Chicagoland

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    Did you recently refuel it?
    Loose gas cap?
    Sounds dumb but that causes weird things to happen.
     
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    The Toyota Condor is a completely different vehicle.
    In the SAE J2012 standard, diagnostic trouble code C0514 is “Right Rear Wheel Speed Sensor Circuit Low,” and the Toyota Repair Manual (more info) for Prius Prime cars lists C0514 as the SAE equivalent of Toyota DTC C1407, “Open or Short in Rear Speed Sensor RH Circuit.”

    Given the brake-related warning messages that were seen, that’s a more likely explanation—but I wouldn’t rely on it until someone has used a Toyota Techstream diagnostic system or equivalent to check for other DTCs in the skid control ECU, the computer that controls the brake system.
    Consider having the car towed in, especially if it’s still under warranty or the red BRAKE warning light is on.

    If the trouble is just with a wheel speed sensor or its wiring, that would disable ABS, VSC, TRAC, and regenerative braking, but it shouldn’t otherwise interfere with the power-assisted hydraulic brakes. Until you’re sure that’s the one and only problem, however, I couldn’t recommend even a short trip.
     
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    OP could DIY check the rear bearing speed sensors are properly plugged in. That can be done without even raising the car I think. It’s ‘round back of the bearing.
     
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    Had it towed to the dealer. They found THREE mouse nests in various places. A wiring harness had been chewed through and had to be replaced. Acts of god not covered under warranty. $360.
     
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    Is the $360 total repair cost, or is it just your out of pocket deductible portion? Yeah, it is not a warranty item, but your comprehensive should have taken care of. If the price is for the total cost, then it is the most reasonable I have seen so far. I have read some rodent damage cases that ended up insurance calling it totaled.
     
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    Billy sharpstick Junior Member

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    Total cost. He didn't say anything about deductible. He also said I was lucky, he's seen worse. Now to shop for rodent deterrent something. Mothballs, ultrasonic?
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Yeah....
    Mieces.
    You must be living right.
    My first bit of advice would be to buy a lottery ticket or two.
    Repair bills that combine the words "wiring" and "harness" usually have car mechanics salivating over boat catalogs like cats when they hear a can opener!

    Speaking of which....
    A cat will make mieces re-locate quicker than anything I know.
    Cats do not repel mieces because they eat the mieces or play with them in that demonic feline-like way.
    They repel mieces because they smell like cats, most particularly because the males usually "mark" their territory.....which is a polite way of saying that they piss all over everything. Female cats merely attract male cats.
    There are other solutions involving urine that should also not be mentioned in polite company, but hey......Florida, right? ;)
    Don't laugh too hard if you live in a state where "poop maps" are a thing....

    However (comma!)
    Florida is the "Sunshine" state like a city in Pennsylvania is the "City of Brotherly Love" which means scent-based solutions will only provide a limited benefit since most parts of Florida get upwards of 60 inches of rain a year....and not in.....ah...."little sprinkles." :D

    If you're not into the feline thing, but know someone who is....a little used kitty litter sometimes works...or just some diluted ammonia.
    Or? If you know where a crazy cat lady lives, take her some coupons from the Sunday paper.
    Your car will get tagged before you ring the doorbell.

    I've used glue traps with success.
    If you're a bunny-hugger, there are some other hippie approved miece repellents:
    Natural Mouse Repellents that Work | Seventh Generation

    Oh....and check your cabin air filter and engine compartment for more signs of miece infestation.
    You cannot possibly be living well enough to have found a dealership that is BOTH honest and competent.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    There are threads here covering the issue for multiple Prii generations. More work, but the sure fix is to block all the access points with metal screening.
     
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    IIRC, all the mods that have been suggested and performed by PCers to "block all the access points with metal screening" are to prevent vermin from entering inside the cabin of the car. I don't think there is any sure way to "block all the access points with metal screening" to the engine compartment where I believe the most of damages are found including OP's.

    I have not used any rodent repellent in my cars. What I have read about any of the repellents is that they seem to be only temporarily effective. Most chemical-based repellent requires a weekly re-application. Not sure about the electric type, but its effectiveness tends not to last very long either. Most animals including mice adjust to environmental stimuli that stay the same for a long time. I kinda agree with @ETC(SS) about the effectiveness of cats for deterring mice. We have many feral cats around our home that seems to be the best rodent repellent for our cars parked on the driveway. However, we have to make sure that no cats are sleeping in the engine compartment of our cars before we first drive away.
     
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  12. Mendel Leisk

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    Yeah, second this: you can't block the engine bay. For sure block cabin egress points, but...
     
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    CharlesH CA HOV Decal #5 on former PiP

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    (Off-topic diversion) The "daemonic feline-like way" of playing with their prey is designed to weaken the prey so they won't injure the cat when they go in for the kill. Predators like cats and dogs are not moral beings.They are not delighting in tormenting their prey, no matter how much it looks like that to us humans. They are just following an instinct to be a more efficient hunter.

    Spraying is only an issue for unneutered male cats. It is how they mark territory. Our 14 year old neutered male cat has never done this.
     
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