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Others losing the Federal Tax Credit after Tesla
Tesla has confirmed selling its 200,000th vehicle in the U.S. and they've updated their tax credit phaseout chart to reflect.
image above InsideEV's (via Tesla)
For those new to the tax credit details available for EV's, here's a quick explanation.
All plug-ins vehicles sold in the U.S. are eligible for a federal tax credit up to $7,500 (more qualifying details apply). When a manufacturer sells 200,000 cars, the full amount will be available through the following quarter. After, all new plug-ins from that manufacturer are eligible for 50% of the per-vehicle credit amount for two additional quarters. The credit then continues to diminish until it's phased out completely.
The other manufacturer's getting close to losing the federal tax credit are:
- GM
- Nissan
- Ford
- Toyota
- BMW
Inside EV has more details at this...Team ChargePoint Sep 9, 2018 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 11,751 Likes: 0 Replies: 47 -
2016 Toyota Prius Official Press Photos
You can find all of the 2016 Prius official press photos provided by Toyota to PriusChat in this media album:
2016 Toyota Prius Official Press Photos | PriusChat
Here's a selection.
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Hybrid battery capacity of the Saturn Vue Greenline?
I've come into possession of (2) Saturn Vue 36v Hybrid batteries (2007 and 2009) that were included in a pallet of HV batteries I recently purchased.
Been searching online trying to find the capacity of these batteries, with no luck. Anyone have any information?
Each battery has (3) 12 volt cartridges that would be similar to 2 prius modules mounted in a metal case. Except each of these modules are 6 volts, about twice the thickness of a Prius module, and cannot be separated from each other due to the metal cartridge being spot welded. Discharging to 9.4 volts and end of charge (11,000 mah) is around 14.5 volts.
I've been discharging/charging at increasing levels all week. Being conservative since I don't know their specs. but using a 1.5 amp discharge limit (actually about 0.7amps due to 10w limit) and a 2 amp charge limit. Started at 6000 mah maximum and now I'm at 11,000. It looks like the modules aren't even blinking at 11k charge. The last one I checked had a 10696... -
Escape PHEV reviews
Looks like the previews for the Escape PHEV are starting to come out.
All-New 2020 Ford Escape PHEV-37 Preview | CleanMPG
"2020 Ford Escape PHEV-37 FWD ($33,040/$35,620/$38,835 + $1,245 D&H + $195 Mini-Spare - $1,500 Rebate for SE/SEL/Titanium) while buyers are eligible for a Federal tax credit of $6,843.
As consumers begin returning to work and taking trips, demand for gasoline is expected to spike from the decades-low prices of the past few months.
The all-new 2020 Ford Escape PHEV has now been certified with a best-in-class EPA-estimated fuel economy rating of 43/38/41 mpg city/highway/combined and100 MPGe combined plus an EPA-estimated 37 miles of all-electric driving range from the onboard, liquid cooled 14.4 kWh Li-Ion traction battery.
The Escape HEV and PHEV are part of Ford’s investment of more than $11.5 billion in electrified vehicles. The Escape HEV/PHEV features Ford’s innovative... -
Leaf vs Prius
Source: Nissan Leaf electric vs Toyota Prius hybrid: which is lower on cost, emissions?
Sometimes, when tucking in for the evening, you can't help but wonder: did I really make the right choice? Could I have done better? Even now, could I still do better?
This is the question I ask myself, each evening, when I park my 2015 Nissan Leaf in the garage next to my wife’s 2006 Toyota Prius.
Given that both vehicles are now driven daily into Boston from the suburbs, a direct comparison seems inescapable.
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As I silently drive away . . .
Bob Wilson
bwilson4web Jun 21, 2016 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 11,470 Likes: 1 Replies: 60 -
37 of the top selling diesels in europe fail nitrous oxides limit in the real world by avg of 5x.
Do you think we're seeing the beginning of the end of diesels, at least for passenger cars?
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Manchin climate bill and EV Tax credit reinstatement
Quoted from here since the official information is terrible with spelling errors
https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/us-energy-bill-agreement-ev-credit-details-2nd-7-28-update-11-06am-et.44941/
- Effective as of December 31, 2021 (backdated, appears to only apply to the old law provisions)
- Contracts written in 2022 can still be capitalized in 2023 under old law.
- GM vehicles now qualify again, per-OEM limits removed (appears to begin on 1/1/23)
- Now a refund instead of a credit (everyone gets back full regardless of what you pay in Federal taxes) This can be applied at time of sale, big point
- Cars in contract as of the signing of the bill can use old bill (so if you have an EQS on order and make...
Rmay635703 Jul 28, 2022 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 11,241 Likes: 1 Replies: 69 - Effective as of December 31, 2021 (backdated, appears to only apply to the old law provisions)
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VW ID.4 with 3 years free charging
First off, I'm not tempted as my Std Rng Plus Model 3 has some unique capabilities. Regardless, it is a hoot to see VW offering three years of free charging:
Since VW owns Electrify America, having both the charging network and EV manufacturing is the way to go. IMHO, the problems with Electrify America is they had no unified population of EVs that needed reliable charging. The ID.4 may provide the standard to solve the cacophony of CCS-1 style, fast DC charging.
Frankly, any CCS-1 style, EV maker should contract with Electrify America for 3 years of free charging. This will deflate the central California, hydrogen experiment.
Bob Wilsonbwilson4web Oct 22, 2020 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,967 Likes: 2 Replies: 172 -
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2023 Prius Prime PHEV debuts with 220-hp engine and 40-mile EV range
I want one!!!
- "hybrid reborn" concept: Gen 5 designed from scratch for a new era of PHEVs
- 2.0 L engine
- 220 hp (223 PS) combined power
- 0–62 mph in 6.7 s
- 13.6 kWh battery
- improved battery power (that will hopefully let the defogger operate without ICE unlike in Gen 4)
- battery mounted under rear seats
- 40 mi EV range
- wider
- longer wheelbase
- 19 in wheels with wider tires
- Gen 2 TNGA platform
- lowered center of gravity
- more aerodynamic for more steering stability and less wind noise
- improved handling
- island architecture for cockpit design
Hopefully I can trade in my 2021 Prius Prime Limited for a 2023 Prius Prime LTD, assuming my car payments would go down....Gokhan Nov 16, 2022 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,908 Likes: 2 Replies: 128 -
Motortrend: Prime vs Volt (and other alt. vehicle comparisons)
Finally saw an article that seems fair in it's evaluation of the Prius Prime! This writer not only covers the theoretical aspects of each car, but then goes into SOME of the real-life advantages of Prime over Volt.
Future Car Special: Comparing Hybrids, Plug-Ins, EVs, and Hydrogen Fuel Cell Cars - Motor Trend
Yeah! One for our team[emoji16][emoji16][emoji23][emoji41]
.HPrimeAdvanced May 22, 2017 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,775 Likes: 4 Replies: 91 -
Who has replaced hybrid battery
I’m helping a government team considering incentives for hybrids and EVs. A common concern is that the hybrid batteries will need to be replaced within the vehicle lifetime at high cost. But is this really an issue? I see that Toyota offers a 10-year 150,000 mile warranty on the hybrid battery. And I have seen many Priuses used as taxis in Europe with many more miles on the clock and still using the original battery.
So I would like to find out who had to replace the hybrid battery on their Prius? (Not due to damage, just due to wear). Please reply via the attached poll?
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Future Toyota Prime PHEVs: How much range and performance?
Recent 5 min read. This Green Car Reports article summarizes recent discussions with Cooper Ericksen, Toyota Motor North America VP for product planning and strategy. From article - “Our research indicates the average customer commutes in that 20-to-30-miles-per-day range,” Ericksen explained. “The key to a plug-in is to have the right range to do your daily tasks on EV only, plugging in, in your garage—and then you have the hybrid portion for long trips, so it's one car that in today's world can really do the job of multiple cars.”
Future Toyota Prime plug-in hybrids: How much range and performance?Marine Ray Dec 2, 2021 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,738 Likes: 1 Replies: 85 -
3 States Drop Gas Tax as Prices Soar
These States Have Suspended State Gas Tax – Forbes Advisor
Can't wait to see the size of potholes and their impact on ever larger rims with skinny tires. Plus? Since most people are driving pickups, SUVs, & other tall wind resistant vehicles - will RVs and the like really get that much of a benefit? Maybe the extra cash saved can be used for tire flat repairs? It's likely to help independent interstate truckers though.
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Toyota EV market innovation
From this recent article from investor relations company S&P Global -
"Meanwhile, Japanese carmaker Toyota is planning a late foray into the battery-electric vehicle market, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence. Despite having pioneered emissions-reducing technology in its first-generation Prius more than 20 years ago in 1997, the company doesn’t plan to produce any battery-electric vehicles within the next five years. Instead, Toyota is planning to produce 1 million battery-electric and hydrogen fuel cell car sales by 2035.
"Toyota is betting on seeing a quantum leap in its EV development and EV success from 2025 on, when its solid-state battery will arrive, and be ready for a more aggressive approach by then," Julie Boote, an analyst at Pelham Smithers, said in a research note, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence.
"One risk would be consumers in developed markets don't think of them as a [battery-electric vehicle] BEV firm but Toyota has plenty of marketing...Marine Ray Sep 24, 2020 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,487 Likes: 1 Replies: 76 -
1 in 5 Californians have swapped their EV for a gas car — and this is to blame
This article from Tom's Guide pretty much echoes my reasons for waiting to get a BEV. I'd like one, but the system isn't ready for what I would need when I make treks way off the beaten path. Hence the PHEV gives me the best of both worlds.jerrymildred May 5, 2021 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,477 Likes: 3 Replies: 136 -
Finally! Toyota is investing in large scale battery plans
Whatever the many reasons Toyota has taken so long to make this announcement... And yes it's just a bunch of promises, it's still a big step forward for leadership that have been a stick in the mud when it comes to transitioning to all electric vehicles
I'm sure we're all a little bit relieved that they are no longer gonna be anti-electric fossil fools claiming hybrid cars are superior to all-electric. It took a long time for them to accept that the future market requires major investments in all electric, not just resting on their already established hybrids:
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TOKYO, Sept 7 (Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) said on Tuesday it expected to spend more than $13.5 billion by 2030 to develop batteries and its battery supply system, in a bid to take a lead in the key automotive technology over the next decade.
The world's largest automaker by volume, which pioneered hybrid gasoline-electric vehicles with the popular Prius, is moving rapidly to deliver its first all-electric...PriusCamper Sep 7, 2021 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,428 Likes: 3 Replies: 47 -
2018 Camry hybrid to offer two different battery packs
Seems they're following a similar suit for the Camry hybrid as they did with the Gen 4 Prius with offering two different packs. They didn't say what the mpg was yet, but I'm guessing it'll be in the mid to high 40's.
Ashlem Jan 10, 2017 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,422 Likes: 1 Replies: 85 -
Toyota Is Losing the Electric Car Race, So It Pretends Hybrids Are Better
Slashdot so consider the source:
Toyota Is Losing the Electric Car Race, So It Pretends Hybrids Are Better - Slashdot
Jschja01 Mar 15, 2019 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,412 Likes: 0 Replies: 122 -
Prius is the second most likely vehicle to be kept for 15 years
From Iseecars.com:
One out of 6 Prius owners keep their Prius for 15 years, beat only by the Toyota Highlander.
The study actually reports the percentage of 15 year old or older vehicles sold by the original owner.
“The oldest hybrid vehicle to remain in continuous production, the Prius’ appearance on the list helps dispel concerns about battery durability and shows that Toyota’s quality and reliability standards extend beyond its conventional fuel vehicles.”
Prius has ranked high in previous studies as well.
Cars Original Owners Keep for 15 Years or Longer - iSeeCars.comroyrose Jan 5, 2019 Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News Read More Views: 10,398 Likes: 4 Replies: 51
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