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Featured Ford Mustang Mach-E Intelligent Range Estimator Aims To Improve Upon Tesla's

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Tideland Prius, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. Tideland Prius

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    Ford Mustang Mach-E Intelligent Range Estimator Aims To Improve Upon Tesla's
     
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    I have a hard time when a ‘virtual’ claim is made about a mass-less, non-roadable vehicle and its software.

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    Comparing a car with no typical users experiences to one that has had millions of miles of driving with people with various needs and temperaments. Not impressed. Come back in a year and lets see what real world experiences tell us.
     
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    with no supercharging network, owners are going to need as much accuracy as possible
     
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    Remember the Prius markups in 2005?

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    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    Yeah. Those were the good old days.
    Back when a basic car was over priced but you could safely drive anywhere you wanted to go, have a good meal and drive back home.

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    that's why we bought our Gen 2 2004 1 year used. Might do the same thing with the model y.

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    any competitor that mentions tesla immediately gets more press coverage
     
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    Let me know when this part arrives. On numerous of my routes, accurate range cannot be figured without terrain and elevation change details.

    I believe that energy consumption also varies with road surface texture and roughness. It mostly certainly does vary when riding bicycles, it seems that cars should be no different. Certain roads I drive on have more rough surface textures than others, sometimes to improve foul weather traction, sometimes for budget reasons. Then cracks and joints and potholes and patches also seem to sap some energy too, and older and poorly maintained roads have vastly more of these than new roads.

    As a result, some long road sections have 'mysteriously' lower MPG than others, not obviously connected to elevation changes (and cutting MPG in both directions). These variations will be best addressed by collecting lots of automatic vehicle reports from every segment of the national road network.
     
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    There are rumors that Tesla will make their own maps from collected car data. If done, the maps will be more accurate because actual energy use per road by direction will be available.

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    They REALLY need to factor wind into the equation. Up here in South Dakota (I need to change my location) hard north winds can just demolish range on a north south interstate if you are headed into them.
     
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    Wasn't it the Ford hybrids that learned the drivers home and work locations? Knowing it was approaching a common destination, the car would add to the battery's charge to lower the engine load at the next start up. Which should help with emissions and fuel economy at that time.
    Which is what this Ford system will do, eventually. Since these systems require data from cars on the road, Tesla will have the advantage whenever this comes out.
     
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    Tesla certainly ought to already have a decent initial dataset for this, if a sufficient number of drivers haven't opted out of data collection. So I'd hope they are already working on it.
    That would be for a later update, a step beyond what is indicated above. But at least there is a decent network of live weather sensors out there to eventually roll into this estimate. A network though should be continually getting better coverage.
     
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