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  1. hill

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    It's a typical picture of many many carpool lanes being as crowded as the lanes that the carpool lane is right next to. Yes during some hours & some freeways it's not as bad as others. Many carpool lanes prohibit bouncing from one lane to another once you're legally trapped in an overcrowded carpool lane. That creates another set of dangerous conditions in itself - as your typical scofflaw will do it anyways. The scenario then will be your traveling in the fast lane near maxspeed limit and some jerk doing 0mph cuts in or out & then you - hoping to God you can slam on your brakes to avoid rear-ending him/her .... but yeah sure, sometimes a carpool lane works .... all too often it's questionable as to whether simply letting those Lanes get used as regular traffic for congestion purposes as well as safety is better.
     
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    I disagree.

    The sign visible in the lower right applies to a carpool lane that isn't in the frame at all.

    It is possible that the far-left lane of the visible oncoming traffic is part of a carpool, given the odd lane markings. But those dashes would appear to represent the mixing entry/exit zone which always feature the worst congestion of any carpool lane system.

    I'm also noticing that the picture is quite old- I don't see anything newer than maybe a 2006 model year in that photo. Some of the heavy trucks are obvious pre-2010 configurations, now banned in California.

    I guess I like the sample freshness and richness of the information conversationally coming from my co-workers over one old photo.
     
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    Yes - but they have carpooling signage on both sides. Gridlock happens based on leaving or going into work. That side would be empty so a picture of that lane would be irrelevant
    1st - Pre 2010 Truck ban only applies to Diesel. 2nd - i apologize for using older photo to illustrate a point, but whether the picture was taken a year or 5 or 15 ago is irrelevant to the point of illustrating congestion. Did I miss something? that as of last year - suddenly such freeways are now open wide? That's how long ago it was that we were driving from Ontario International out to the sticks in Hemet. A drive can be done in 50 minutes around 3am - but during Drive time? It took us 2½ hrs. But maybe that was an anomaly
     
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    I don't go down to the city where there are car pool lanes much. But when I do I notice that they are always seemingly much faster and fewer cars than the normal lanes. The only time I didn't see them going so fast was one day I was headed towards the big city and traffic was going about 20 to 25mph average, so I slipped into the HOV lane right behind one guy that... (I still can't believe this actually happened)... decided to match speed with the stop-n-go, 20-to-25mph normal traffic. So I ended up paying some $8 and change for nothing because of one single driver.