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Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by bwilson4web, Oct 20, 2023.

  1. bwilson4web

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    I'm reminded of the old Jerry Clower joke,'Is there a wrong way to kill a rattle snake?'

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    Actually all you dumb humans have killed rattlesnakes by reacting to their rattle and so the rattlesnakes that don't rattle are thriving and will bite you and you might not know what happened so you die because you didn't get anti-venom soon enough.

    And because I live a lifestyle of constantly interacting with wildlife I can assure you that it's not intelligence that makes humans superior to other lifeforms, but senseless cruelty and an ability to commit mass murder that serves no purpose.

    By my count fungus and bacteria and other life forms that have thrived on this plant for billions of years to a near a 1/2 billion years are superior by every measure because they have had way more time to develop their genetic intelligence that wildlife diversity is a blooming of... Meanwhile short-lived humans look more and more like a miscarriage not much different than a planet killing meteor instead of a viable way to help the earth evolve and thrive with massive amounts of life/consciousness/intelligence.
     
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    Rattlesnakes ..... tastes like chicken. they don't call it snake load for nothing. If it weren't for rattlesnakes - I might be barefoot

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    Jerry Clower? i'd NEVER heard of him ... but after listening to several of his bits ? Thanks for the intro!
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    can we get a pick of your asian hornet footwear?
     
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    interesting take. i never thought about it like that. is it that black and white though?
     
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    It's not that black and white, but microbioligists have plenty of evidence that billions of years of far more superior collective intelligence of millions of species of fungus and bacteria is the foundation upon which all these larger "more complex" lifeforms came into existence in the past 1/2 billion years. I mean it took us dummies until last week to discover and finally formally announce the most fundamental law of the universe that is the antithesis (or at least a huge plot twist) of entropy: https://www.space.com/scientists-propose-missing-law-evolution-of-everything-in-the-universe

    What's more humans still don't know how to cultivate and grow more than 1% of the bacteria that exists in our world.
     
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    I hope you don't lose sleep over this stuff.....
     
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    That is an extremely strong over-representation for what is really, at this point, just a new hypothesis:

    "Researchers have proposed a "missing" scientific law for the evolution of life, minerals, planets, stars and pretty much everything else in the universe."


    New hypotheses are proposed very frequently. Most eventually get weeded out by new test results, only a small portion survive and go on to be elevated to actual 'law'.
     
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    I actually sleep better if I spent the previous day learning lots of new things... Learning new things is the best cure for most age related degeneration. It also makes you a more interesting person to have a conversation with!
     
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    Lol.... Never underestimate the ability of "modern" humans to immediately dismiss new knowledge without learning more... It's how ignorance perpetuates itself

    For those who have spent a lifetime studying astrophysics and molecular biology and deep ecology, this hypothesis is profoundly all-encompassing of almost everything we've learned in the sciences.

    But I get it, All you flat earthers ridiculed Galileo and told him to keep his mouth shut and when he refused they told him that his book was speaking nonsense and jailed him and banned his book... Same thing Fuzzy is doing right now.
     
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    We were burning witches 600 years ago still have trouble with COVID and other vaccinations:
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    Oh, I don't ... or the ability of the same humans to immediately treat a new idea as 'knowledge' before the fork comes out clean. The two abilities kind of balance each other. Looked like fuzzy1 was going for the balance ... sort of like the last person quoted in the article was.
     
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    Never dismiss the ability of humans of misread and misrepresent the very articles they cite.

    Now you are coming back to current reality. This is a very different from how you represented it in your earlier post:
    I can't remember anything that went from initial publication as a hypothesis, to fundamental law of the universe, in even just ten years, let alone ten days (Oct 16 to 26, 2023).

    Please check your meds, it sounds like something is going off again. You don't want to be going way off your rocker and into a deep tirade again, like you have several other times.
     
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    It seems that every time one of the larger particle colliders establishes a new firm measurement or new particle, many (even dozens) of forks (hypotheses) get pulled out and tossed aside as no longer consistent with reality. Then the researchers and theorists focus more on the remaining fork(s), a reduced set from before but commonly a multi-item set of competing forks. Some of the theorists start brain-storming from the new results and creating new forks, some very similar to existing forks, some drastically different. Other folks focus more on new measurements, and how to make new tests that could winnow down the current selection of forks.

    Later, rinse, repeat.
     
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    Amazing how people's reactions to a new model is to ridicule those who are like: "yes this makes sense to me... Let's work on this, it's incredibly promising."

    It's like they use that excitement as grounds for dismissal with prejudice. #NotSmart
     
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    LOL...
     
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