Gun sales "explode" in Oregon

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  1. bisco

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    We need guns to protect ourselves from all the people with guns. Pretty basic logic, I'd say. What's not to get? ;)
     
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    As my dad said -- and yes, I know he basically was quoting someone else --...you will never go wrong assuming people are idiots...until proven otherwise:D

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    Now that you mention it I could live off venison, squirrel, foxes, and gophers without leaving my yard. Actually the County shoots em with bow and arrows...the only reason I do not invite the County shoot from my yard (which they will do) is we got grandkids over here all the time.

    And I got small yard too, but the woods are behind it
     
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    A firearm is an item which offers protection for and in situations which one cannot control. With people freaking out like they are, there is a chance I'm sure that some idiot will try and get what he/she needs from their neighbor instead of the store. I guess a baseball bat would also offer some protection, but why let them get that close?

    It's ok that you don't understand, because it's vice/versa for gun owners. Many of them don't understand why you don't own one.
     
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    Need a gun to protect my toilet paper.
     
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    Hopefully, no one plans to shoot their neighbor. In times of severe strife, people do crazy things, which may force more reasonable people to take unprecedented action to protect themselves and those they love. Anyone remember the looting and violence during New Orleans little crisis? Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it...and it does little good to have it, if you never practice with it.

    And not everyone lives within arm length of 10 other people...I can legally go on my back deck and fire away any time I feel the urge...typically I just plink away with my 22 pellet rifle when I feel like target shooting. It's fun to play with and is fairly accurate to about 80 yards, which is about the back fence line of the backyard area I have enclosed for the pups. I have a little triple spinner target set up about 10 feet off the ground and around 25 yards from the deck. Sometimes it's just relaxing...
     
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    Those are fun. I often wish I lived in a place I could do that. We used to do lots of plinking when we were in rural Ohio. Now, in the city, we either pay big bucks at a range or we drive an hour away to friends' who live in the country and have an outdoor range. We don't have the pellet rifle anymore; just my 9mm self defense weapon made for concealment and my wife's 22 Walther. Guess which one is more fun to shoot. :D
     
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    I have to say, this is my first thought as well.

    You need something to drive off the unwiped hoards when they come for your strategic TP stockpile.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    People in storm country generally live where there isn't a 10-day waiting period and most houses at least have a scatter-gun for home defense...and an extra box or two of shells.
    I keep a pump in a non-disclosed location in my city house with 2 loads of bird-shot (Grace and Mercy.)
    The rest are 00 Law Enforcement loads which (counter intuitively) are lower recoil loads designed for easier control and less over penetration.
    Because: 12-gauge.

    Everything you need.
    Not much you don't.

    The rest (CCW, licensing, restrictions, laws, etc....) are best covered in the political section.
     
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    national geographic did a nice 1 hour, docu-fiction-drama called "American blackout" - well worth watching. Cyber attack takes out all power. Everyone is nice & cooperative for a while. Then, as things get tougher & tougher? If anything, the show reveals how important it is to NOT depend on you state when things get out of control.
    Couple that, with the 2008 Daniel Craig movie based on 1930's - 40's history "Defiance" where European Jews sat around waiting for "things to get better". Ultimately - only the ones that ran into the forest & became good at surviving - actually did.
    Hope for the best? Here's for hoping that works for those that feel that way.
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    It almost certainly will this time.
    It's going to take a different kinda virus, or something much faster and more kinetic to cause the beam-ends of society to get knocked that far out of geometry.......but this is a good time for people to make an Oscar-Sierra plan and start developing a muscle memory for planning ahead.
    A few extra cans of this, some boxes of that and some extra ones and fives jammed into an envelope over time can put you in a position to help somebody else....instead of sitting in the dark and panicking because nobody is helping YOU.
    YMMV.
     
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    Definitely true, but if we do get to Mad Max or Walking Dead-levels of society collapse, a gun is not going to significantly increase your survival chances over those who don't have one.

    Better to focus your energies into stopping society from collapsing, than preparing for it imo.
     
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    Like anything else. You never know. Having one available is better than having none. Can't tell the assailant to come back next week after you go out and buy one .
     
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    We're reading "Tunnel in the Sky" by Heinlein. Interesting discussion on guns, pros-and-cons.

    Link has spoilers:

    Tunnel in the Sky - Wikipedia
     
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    I use the Winchester Defender shell consisting of double OO buck and a 1 Oz slug.

    I would shoot to kill if the offender points his or her weapon or gets within 10 feet with a knife.

    With an unarmed attacker charging at me, I'd aim for the knees to take him or her down.
     
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    amazing what happens when the government tells you to take a couple weeks off
     
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    Some Hurricane Katrina neighborhoods protected themselves. Others? Not so much.
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    ..and that's why I bought my Wife an 870 decades ago. I prefer the G21. YMMV
     
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    We had a turbo-charged neighborhood watch program featuring "constitutional carry."

    I have to say that I never really worried about having to leave my house to go to work during those times.
    Being a phone dude, I was one of the few people that DID go to work.

    There was one sign on a business I saw that said:
    "Looters will be SHOT......Survivors will be shot AGAIN!!"

    That pretty much set the tone....

    Not at all politically correct, nor is it at all something that you want during OPS Normal, but there's a very fragile, very thin membrane that separates "polite society" from "Lord of the Flies" and so there are times when it is arguably less bad to threaten another human with physical violence over a roll of toilet paper, than it is to live on some Mad Max studio writ large.

    Me?
    Personally?

    I've actually worked my way through a "shoot/don't shoot" scenario, and it left a DEEP mark on my psyche...and so I'M the guy you want on the other end of the shotgun if you kick open a shed or garage door at oh-dark-thirty to steal some gas.
    You'd probably even survive kicking open my front door, but some ER tech is going to be veeeeeeery busy trying to locate and remove the better part of 700+ teeny tiny bits of bird shot if I manage to get the scatter-gun in battery.

    What I learned from Katrina is that you do not ever EVER let the government arrange for your safety during a natural disaster and/or period of civil unrest......



    ...EVER!

    Effect of Hurricane Katrina on the Louisiana Superdome - Wikipedia
     
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