Have you ever seen the end of miles to go?????

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Fuel Economy' started by 8Nguy500, Jul 30, 2021.

  1. Grit

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    then take higher temperature leading to gas/liquid thermal expansion for consideration also.
     
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    I have tried to attach my mileage spreadsheet for you to review. This is only for actual mileage not what the cars displays. It also take into account snow tires vs. summer tires. First two cars were in 15 inch wheels. 2019 car 15inch on snow tires17inch on summer tires.
     

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    Thank you for your reply. It is funny you mention your wife. Our adventure happen on a Friday, on Thursday my wife said I'm going to Johnson (Seneca in my story) I said why don' you put gas in the car? NO. So that is how the adventure began.

    About your gas line freeze did that have shortly after you moved to Colorado? I'm thinking made be you did have a winter gas blend in the car/ Just a thought. I live in Wisconsin owned three Prius and never had an issue and cars were parked out side. In the winter I fill up with two bars showing on the gauge.

    Nice writing to you take care and stay healthy.
     
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    I'm not seeing where I seemed to be saying that at all. The other member wasn't someone who 'once' misfilled the tank, it was someone who had owned the car for a while, and I guess was never a true believer that misfilling was a thing, and after some time period of driving that way, there was eventually a little encounter with reality that got dealt with by replacing the filler neck and valves, and going back to the same habits again. The next resulting encounter with reality only came after another eight months of that treatment.

    If anything, I'd say it looks like an average person who isn't trying to tempt fate, but only once or twice makes a genuine mistake, probably hasn't much to worry about.

    You're welcome! I wish I could take credit for the illustration, but it's from Toyota's training materials, of course.
     
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    I will share this story with you about my 2017 Prius. To begin with you should I live in a very rural area. We had just departed the La Crosse WI dealership and were headed home and stopped to gas up for the return trip. Pulled up to the pumps and the inside latch would not open the gas flap. We even tried have one person hold the button in while the other one tried to pull on the flap. No good. Then I remembered from the manual about the emergency release in the hatch. I do read the manual. Ok got the flap open and began fueling. Handle snaps off. Try again the same thing, try again no joy. Called the dealer they could not help over the phone. Managed to get 2 gallon into the tank to get home 60 mile trip.

    Made an appointment took the car back to the dealer (same 2 gallons). Dealer work on the car and said a rodent chewed into a hose and this would not let fuel and air into the tank. Solution I would need a entire new gas tank and fittings $500.00 +++. Not under warranty because it was rodent damaged.

    Service tech and I sat down and talk. My position was the a chewed hose was a design flaw and that there had to be another way to fix this. Service manager came in and said the could try and seal the leak with some silicone but it would take over night. A loaner car for the ride home back the next day. Car fills fuel as normal, inside latch works I'm a happy camper $90.00. It as a lease car no problems turn it in in to years. Can't tell you any more than that.

    Just wanted to share
     
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    Great story!

    Here is a story about a varmint that ate my seat cover during the winter. o_O

    Had my first Wth moment - Varmit ate thru seat cover! | PriusChat

    BTW - Love the driftless area! We are in SE Minnesota.
     
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    Have you ever seen the end of miles to go?????

    Yeah....about every 480-500 miles.
    Somewhere around DTE=20 you'll hear a BEEEEEP! and get a low fuel alert.
    After a few more miles (10?) DTE just goes to zero.

    After that?
    You usually have about 1.8 gallons left in a G3.
    I usually make a mental note to get gas sometime at the next convenient stop.

    WARNING!!
    This is for MY PRIUS!!!
    ACTUAL MILEAGE MAY DIFFER!!!

    The G4 has an 11.3 gallon tank, and if the Prime is anything like the Pip, they may have shrunk that down some to accommodate the battery, but lawyers will always do what lawyers do, so my thinking is that the G4 also has an onboard "reserve."

    200,000 miles in 2 G3s.
    Haven't run out of gas yet.
    I make it a habit not to have to "guess" how far a tank of fuel will take me, and I have access to several tanks of staged fuel at any given time. ;)

    YMMV
     
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    I don't think so. We got re-stationed here in the Spring of 2000 and when the gas lines froze it was a very cold snap in December. It was my old Z-24 Chevy and probably had just under 1/4th of a tank left. It was about 10 below zero and I got in and left for work...didn't get but a few blocks and she just died and wouldn't restart. I got a ride to the gas station to get my gas can filled up and picked up a bottle of Heet. Put in the Heet and the gas and she started on the 2nd attempt...weird.
     
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    Shouldn't E10 fuel perform a similar function now? While not as effective unit-for-unit as the form of alcohol used in Heet, it still does something similar, and you now get it by the gallon every fill-up, not by the pint just when a special effort is made.
     
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    In case anyone is wondering, the Prime tank is also 11.3 gallons. That was really dumb what they did to the PiP fuel capacity.
     
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    I actually DID wonder about that....and I concur.
    The Pip has an appallingly small fuel tank, but then it was only intended as a compliance PHEV.

    I wish I had a clean, late model used Pip myself, but I'm sure that I would regularly curse the small fuel tank.
    I'm glad common sense prevailed with the Prime.
    NOW I have NO reason that I can think of not to recommend a Prime over a wireless G4 Prius!
     
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    11 gallons is huge! I had a 2013 Scion iQ and it had 8.5 gallons but had a strange fuel gauge and would start blinking when you still had over 3 gallons left!! It has a small 1.3l engine and got around 45 mpg but that blinking light was so annoying...I ended up using the Trip mileage to know when it was really near empty...usually 280-300 miles but rarely took over 7 gallons to fill.
     
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    After having my first car run dry with the needle still above E, then a later car having a quarter of its tank below E, I've been more inclined to characterize each car's fuel gauge to get a better idea of the tank's actual state. And do this early during car ownership, at a convenient no-risk time and circumstance, before encountering a situation where I might really need to know how much fuel is there.
     
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    Yes there are still miles at 0 miles remaining. While it might not make a huge difference, delaying getting gas keeps demand lower, and to some degree gas prices. Our 9 gallons at full up might not make all that much difference though. They do pump more oil out of the ground everyday. Food for thought.
     
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    try that philosophy here in commiefornia.
     
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    They might pump more oil out of the ground every day. But that does not fill up my wallet. Food for thought.
     
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    How so? Does running around with the less weight of a near-empty tank give you a measurable increase in MPG? Or is your fuel station a significant detour off your normal driving routes, requiring extra driving miles to reach it?

    The gas industry is keeping track of just total volume of fuel sold, not the number of stops at the fuel stations.
     
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    I seem to recall that other vehicle makes I owned would revert to “LOW” once the range dropped below 20 miles. Which is probably best.
     
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