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Help! CV axle problem!

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by weidake, Oct 31, 2010.

  1. weidake

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    As I was trying to change oil and I found my Right side CV axle boot was wide open. I will order re-manufactured parts and try to bring it to a third party shop to have them replace it. How much do you think the labor will cost? If I try to take on the job it is there any instruction related on the forum?

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    And my left side CV axle's inner boot is covered with grease. Is that a indication that the left side axle is also going or maybe the grease is from this steering related joint right behind the CV axle? Is this a problem I need to take care of soon?

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    Thanks!
     
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    1. You may find that the price of a new axle shaft is not that great compared to remanufactured [especially if you buy from one of the Toyota dealers that sell discounted parts over the web, such as toyotaworld.com (Champion Toyota - Gulf Freeway) and metrotpn.com in Ohio]. I recommend that you call around to determine labor costs and the willingness of your local repair shops to do that repair.

    2. Regarding the left-side CV boot cover, it appears from the photo that the cover has a slit in it. If that is true, then the cover needs to be replaced.

    3. How many miles on the odometer? I'm very surprised to see this on a 3-year old vehicle.

    4. If you wish to DIY then you really should download the repair info at techinfo.toyota.com

    The hardest part is going to be removing the axle hub nut, and using a slide hammer to pull the old axle shaft out of the transaxle. Disconnect the 12V battery negative terminal before starting work, so that you don't induce skid control ECU DTC, or have a disk caliper piston come flying out when the brake pressure accumulator pump starts to run. Good luck.
     
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    Thanks for the tips! great info!
    3. I have 50,000 on the Odometer, and this car has a salvage title.

    2. the second picture is the joint boot right behind the axle boot not the axle boot. I guess it is the steering related parts
     
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    you sure the joint is bad or is it just the boot that's shot? one does not necessitate the other.
     
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    I'm not sure if the joint is bad already. but I heard it is cost efficient to replace the axle rather than change the boots.
     
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    and when change the joint how do you separate with these ball joints?

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    I think picture #2 is actually the boot that covers the end of the steering rack. You should replace it soon to prevent problems with the rack.
     
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    yes it is the steering boot.

    I'm having problem with all the boots in this car

    inner and outer boots on both Axle and the steering boots.

    Whats the cost to replace all these boots? I mean the labor part.
     
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    I would assume that all of these boot problems are due to the accident? It certainly is not normal for a 3-year old Prius with 50K miles to have split boots.

    Since your driving safety depends upon the joints that are hidden by the boots, you might want to replace them all now rather than hope that they are going to be OK.

    Regarding separating a ball joint, if it doesn't come loose when you remove the nut then you could use a ball joint separator. This is a standard tool available at auto parts stores. For example:
    http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00996404000P

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    http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00994120000P?mv=rr&i_cntr=1288560921091

    The latter tool may damage the ball joint boot so it is better for use in a situation where you are replacing the ball joint.
     
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    I will bring the car to the shop tomorrow. Hopefully none of the joint needs to be replaced.
     
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    I called the dealership and they informed me that there might be a recall on these boots. Anyone heard of such a recall?
     
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    Just got a call back, that recall does not apply to my 2007.
     
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    Can I hammer out the steering rod or I need to use a puller?
     
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    1) If you are not going to reuse a suspension part then you can try hammering on it. However that might damage the part so this is not a good idea if you need to reuse the part.

    2) Given that the steering system ball joints are so small and don't carry a substantial load, a puller may not be needed anyway.
     
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    This pic looks very bad to me. Looks like the lower control arm is bent real bad and possibly the spindle too. She got whacked real hard there huh? Does not take much as you can see the undercarriage on a Prius is very tiny. Slightly bent control arms will drive you crazy as they can make the car pull in one direction or the other even though the front end shows its aligned.

    As far as boots when you get new ones in there I spray Silicon spray on all the boots every 5K miles. Spray inner & outer real good and then wipe off with shop rag. Keeps the boot rubber like new.
    Spray it good...wipe it off as the dirt comes off easier with lubrication and then spray it again. Cracked boots suck as they eventually let dirt in the gear lube and prematurely wear out the CV joint.
     
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    I guess the car has been in a bad accident since it has a salvage title. But I have no idea how a normal lower control arm looks like. Will this cause serious problem in the future?
     
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    I am guessing by the picture but sure looks bad there to me.
    The spindle does not articulate like that as you can see the lower ball joint is at a very bad angle. They don't bend over that far.

    And not sure what you mean by will it cause serious problem in the future? Its not driveable now is it? Does the trans work ok?

    As far as the future I would imagine the lower control arm and maybe the spindle and possibly the strut is damaged also. Is the frame smashed there too or just limited to suspension components bent up.

    Also check the top of the shock/strut mount area (that has the 3 bolts through the frame area) and make sure thats not bent also. That area takes a beating when the wheel is pushed back into the frame.

    We need alot more pictures please. Show us the damaged area in detail. Explain the impact area please.

    BTW, are you doing the work yourself?
     
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    I bought the car with salvage title a year ago, ball joint on the driver side was replace several month ago by a local shop because of steering problems. The car would swing to the right all the sudden and driver side tire worn out very fast. After the ball joint was replaced, the car runs with no problem. And just recently found out about the bad boots on CV joints. I was about to take on the job myself but found out labor only cost $65 and I bought a reconditioned CV joint for another $65. All and all not so bad. I will just save the trouble and have the shop take car of it.

    I will post more pictures hopefully this weekend and show you the damages.
     
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    Ok thanks. Sorry about my last post but it sure looks bent up to me.

    What was the original damage that resulted in salvage title?