Here's a model 3 that promotes climate change awareness

actually, in the Star Trek movies & series?- John Luke Picard did in fact resist the Borg, where that phrase originated. Yep - even in the movies. That's the problem with trying to jam stuff down other people's throat. Eventually the paradigm shift will happen, but .... that shift? It has to be compelling, & nice - not forced on everyone like some kind of plague ... that's just something to think about.

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Please note, the Tesla owner with the Warming Stripes wrap doesn’t consider himself a kindred spirit of el Crucero.

 

maybe the Model 3 folk are, if they are in fact "locutus" ...
One of the electric boats on our Lake just got a very cool Pirates of the Caribbean type wrap. I'll have to get on over there tomorrow morning, maybe post a picture. Ok - better get home before it gets too dark.


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How on earth does that promote anything other than conspicuous consumption?

I mean, I get it, the artwork is interpreted data. That is cool. I appreciate that. But in this form it is stripped of all context. It's just a blingy show-off that does nothing whatsoever for climate awareness and probably does at least as much against it. I mean, it's only going to be recognized or realized by people who already agree with the underlying statement. Way to feel good about preaching to the choir.

If you want a visual statement loaded with environmentally positive energy, always show the car with every seat full. No wasted potential.

 

I think spending money on any form of energy for repetitive personal travel is a bit naff. I agree that a BEV on the road is better than a petroburner on the road. But it's a lot of money to pay for a baby step. A BEV that isn't on the road (replaced by a carpool plan, mass transit or bicycle) is better still, and usually dramatically cheaper to achieve in dollar cost terms.

For some people, $5000 is lip service. When you're talking about an expensive electric car this is more likely to be true.

An hour a day picking up and dropping off your carpool partners? Now that's something worthy of celebration in the media far and wide. Yet it's essentially unheard of. Save the real glory for the real heroes.

 

I agree with you. No car is the best personal option. Unfortunately our society has been built on cars, most of our cities are designed for cars. You can tell people not to own a car, and you may get a couple to change. Or you can share the advantages of electric cars, and get hundreds of thousands to change.

So I applaud those that have no car. Use a bike, or efficient mass transit, or walk. They are the true heroes. But you can’t change society quickly to that mode.
We as a society can have a bigger impact by cutting a million people’s CO2 in half, than by cutting 100 people’s CO2 by 99%.

I get what you are saying. But I have had more conversations about climate change in the last two weeks than ever before. At events, in parking lots, online. This has helped raise awareness and bring the topic back to top of mind for many.
I’ve seen people reading the documentation I leave in the windows, or studying the CO2 graphs which don’t show up well in pictures.

Yes, it’s loud, it’s obnoxious, and it draws attention and gets conversations started. Which is the whole point.

I am that guy. And thank you

Here is the full blog on it. Www.netzeromn.com/blog

 

If you are worried about greenhouse gases, stop eating beef as cow flatulence is a major cause.

And since it takes almost 700 pounds of water to make 1 pound of beef, you’ll help the water situation out too.

 

Now, I dig that. I didn't realize you were providing that level of information when parking. I retract my previous "stripped of context" comment.

I appreciate the difficulty of adapting to a lower-impact lifestyle. Only once have I made a conscientious household move to within walking distance of my work. It wasn't cheap, but the payoff sure was nice. I was caught off-guard by the reactions of my co-workers. I didn't think it was that big of a deal at the time. As you say, lots of conversations.

Yesterday I caught a news article regarding Seattle-area traffic. The senior official stated the opinion that nothing more could be done with the roads themselves, and that any future spending would be best applied to helping people re-settle closer to their jobs.

...Back to the wrapped car- What can you do with the vinyl once it is time to remove it from the car? With all the publicity it might be a bit recognizable if they pull it out of a whale's gut.

 

One of my favorite talking points about our move into a net zero house, was that we also moved a mile and a half from my wife’s work.
We also moved about 15 miles closer to just about everything. I calculated the amount of time we are saving. Turns out we bought ourselves about 2 weeks of extra time each year.

These are the types of things I enjoy sharing, as it appeals to everyone, not just those focused on the environment.

The manufacturing and disposal of the wrap were definately considerations. We will do our best to recycle or reuse the wrap when we are done with it. Balancing the raised awareness and discussions, I consider it worth it.

 

the thing is, CO2 becomes such a hot-button - because glaciers used to be practically down near Florida, centuries if not more, before the Industrial Revolution. My thinking is why go there, when simply making transportation more energy efficient ... well - that in itself will reduce CO2, and it robs the folks that squawk about its validity of an argument that doesn't need to exist necessarily. (imo)
Ok, so i gotta boat on over to rhe pirate wrap now ... just to stay on the OP's topic

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HERE YOU ARE!




Electric boats. You might say this guy is an "Ecco pirate"
The nice thing about a lake filled with electric boats is you not only don't smell the stink of gas, you don't hear the noise waking you up nice and early or keeping you up late at night.
Certainly no one in our 500 home Community throws it in people's face, "you need to be more like me ... grow your own fruits & veggies & only work for / do biz w/ equally Ecco freaks - blah blah".
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PS
I like those cannons .... even though, if they were real, they would release a burst of CO2
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Doesn't that argue for hybrids for everybody instead of BEVs for the few? Over the next decade or two...

 

If you believe it is an either/or, then yes.
I don’t so why we can’t have both, do you?

 

The reason we couldn't have both would be if supply of "something" (lithium, cobolt, etc.) is constrained and would take a decade or two to ramp up to "BEVs for everybody" levels. Given a finite supply in the near future, is it better to have 1 Model S (100 kWH battery)? 10 Primes (<10 kWH battery)? Or 50 normal Prius (<2 kWH battery)?

Not sure how fast we can ramp up battery production and the mining of all the raw materials that supports it.

 

um, NO - the best illustration?
Use a new - gas guzzling 2018 Toyota 4x4 Tundra .
2018 Toyota Tundra 4WD
.... only 14mpg. all ya gotta do is add 4 more mpg - & you just increased efficiency 30%

BUT - a 50mpg hybrid? - you'd have to get 15 more mpg to get the same increase in fuel efficiency.

Your 30% hybrid efficiency increase saves 93 gallons of gas/yr - figuring 15,000 miles yearly.

sound great? Now consider ONLY a 4mpg - 30% gas saving on a 4x4 Tundra (or similar guzzling land barge)

That measly 4MPG efficiency increase on the Tundra just saved you 833 gallons of gas over the same 15,000 miles .... a 736 gallon greater savings difference between hybrid increased efficiency vs guzzler.

Increasing land barge, guzzler efficiency wins, hands down. Want another teaser?

One of the things EV Bashers most frequently forget is that when Tesla's Model S & X eat the lunch of giant SUVs & cars like Range Rover, Caddy, MB etc ... they are not just saving 4mpg - 30% (736 gallons a year) .... No they are saving the guzzlers' entire 1,000+ gallons /yr.

even the EV's fictional 90ish MPGe represents some 6 fold efficiency increase when compared against a giant dino-fuel burner, vs pure electrons in a big SUV sized EV - that power, often generated via owners PV.

but if you can't do that? yea - we'd best be working on Tundra & similarly sized pickups & SUV's & the like.

WAY farther back than a decade ago, spokesperson for such scientists (not to bash Al Gore) forcasted cataclysmic rising seas, etc, yet here we are. All that to say, multi-millenia climate forecasting (much less its impact) is far from an exact science, & how much man-released CO2 effects climate is also somewhat speculative - as evinced by the example above.
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