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HOV lane ettiquete?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by harrysprius, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. harrysprius

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    So if your in the HOV lane and there's traffic behind you, at what point do you move over?

    Your doing the speed limit, and the right lane is full, do you slow down and find a gap?
    Your doing 5-10 over?
    The car behind you isn't even an HOV or hybrid?

    At what point do you say screw it, I'm not moving over!
     
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    how many lanes? how do you know the car behind you is illegal?
     
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    I'm asking in hypotheticals, but this is just normal commute stuff I'm sure a lot of deal with. There are three or four lanes most of the way.

    Real world example--The other day I had a motorcycle come flying up behind me, and while I was looking for a spot to move over, go around me between another car and I. Mind you I was going 85 in a 70. I wasn't dragging my feet about getting over, there was literally no spot. It had only been seconds.

    Real world example--Dodge crew cab pickup, towing construction trailer in the HOV lane going 45-55, one person in the truck.

    Real world example--Last night on the way home from work, heavy traffic, HOV lane, doing 78 in a 70. Older model chevy pickup with no passenger riding my tail actually shaking his fist out the window at me. It was about 10 minutes or so before we got to a point where I could get over without having to drop 10-15 MPH and merge into regular traffic. Of course that didn't happen because he went flying around me on the right and cut me off before I could even do it.

    When do you move over?
     
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    Here (BC, Canada, drive on the right side of road) we have the Barnet Highway, two lanes in each direction, with the right lane being reserved for High Occupancy Vehicles (2 or more in the car), in the morning and afternoon rush hour direction.

    Recently I had the experience of being lone occupant in the morning rush hour. I initially went for the (legal) left lane. Traffic was fairly light, and it seemed like everyone (except me) wanted to speed. I soon gave up, decide to break the law, moved into the more-or-less-empty right (HOV) lane and let them get by.

    There is something wrong with this picture.
     
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    ONLY when it is necessary to alleviate a dangerous situation.

    As in your motorcycle example, you should first give things a minute to "stabilize" as the "race driver" probably will dart over a lane as soon as possible.

    You are under no obligation to take illegal actions to accommodate others who are also illegal.

    BUT.......driving at only the posted limit in any left lane is in itself somewhat dangerous in many situations.......and is becoming illegal in more and more places lately (obstructing traffic).
     
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    If I see a car in front of me not going 20 over the speed limit with no cars I front of of it in the left lane, I think moron needs to move of the way. If I'm in the HOV lane and traffic on the right is going 0 mph, I'm less inclined to go 40 let alone 65. I fear morons that will enter the HOV lane unexpectedly. But I'm legally using the HOV lane so I stay in it.

    What's my point? I don't follow my own HOV lane etiquette and i like to think i am a rational moron. The other morons behind you high beaming? The only way to please them is to move out of the way. There is no safe speed that will satisfy them.
     
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    Yes. One lane at a stand-still, full of frustrated drivers, the other lane whizzing by: one of the most dangerous scenarios. Another time that happens is with left-laners stacked up behind a waiting left-turner.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I move over for anyone, HOV or not. There seems to be no HOV enforcement at all in Nashville and little speed enforcement. It is annoying though to have to slow down and move out of the HOV to allow a non-HOV using the HOV lane illegally to go around me. That being said, if the other lanes are going the same speed I just ride in them.
     
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    My rule is I go with the flow, unless it is too dangerous; then I get out of the way. For example, if the HOV lane is moving at 80MPH and I wish to remain in that lane I will go with the flow, which is 80MPH. I will not stubbornly go the 65MPH limit because that is the law - that obstructs traffic and angers people, which can create more dangerous conditions as cars pass each other. If I don't want to go past the speed limit, am carrying precious cargo, feel like hyper-miling or simply find the conditions too risky I will exit the HOV lane and move into the MUCH slower right lanes.

    It's my choice to not go with the flow, so why inhibit others? There are few things more frustrating than a driver obstructing the entire HOV lane so they can go the speed limit or are too afraid to go with the flow due to the lanes next to them slowing down - that is what allows more drivers to move into the HOV lane causing more cascading slowdowns. If you don't feel comfortable going with the flow, please move to the right lanes. The absolute worse thing is people who don't meet the HOV requirements driving 45-50MPH in the HOV lane because they can - that is the epitome of un-courteous selfishness.

    When I'm driving I like to have the least impact on other people - I want to get where I'm going safely and efficiently and that is getting more challenging here in the Bay Area. I would not have purchased the PiP if it didn't have the HOV sticker (I would be driving my wife's 2010 Prius); if the PiP is demoted out of the HOV lane then I will get the Prime or Ioniq BEV if only white stickers are allowed. The sticker saves me 45-60 mins every single day and that time is priceless to me (my work requires me to be present during the standard 7-5 range for the most part so that sticker is essential in saving me time, specifically in the evening commute).
     
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    This is why I tend to avoid the HOV lane. As a rule of thumb (in my mind, at least), the HOV lane is expected to move faster than the passing lane. And I don't drive fast enough to keep up with the passing lane these days. So, I stay out of the HOV lane unless I can keep up with the traffic flow. I also tend to interpret the HOV lane as the speeding lane, because that is how the majority of drivers tend to view it.

    The exception is during rush hour when the other lanes are at a stand still. Then, driving too much faster than the passing lane is dangerous.