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How many vehicles does Japan import?

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by malorn, Jan 26, 2006.

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  1. malorn

    malorn Senior Member

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    Almost 6 million vehicles were sold in Japan how many do you think were sold by import makers? Remember almost 44 % of the 17 million Us sales were sold by import makers.
     
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    WHOEVER RESPONDS TO THIS IS AN IDIOT
     
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    I did :( but I picked 100% just to screw around :rolleyes: my way of saying what maggieddd was thinking
     
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    How about that? let's make it a Toyota Invasion 2005 and all vote for 100% so Malorn can go and wipe his nice person with his Chevy
     
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    I rounded up to 5%. The actual number is about 4.6% of the vehicles sold in Japan are from foreign makers. That is about equal to Hyundai's share of the US market. That total includes Ford, GM, Mopar, Mercedes, Hyundai, Kia, BMW, ......

    Does this shock anyone?
     
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    That's very right wing of you.... :lol:

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    Maggie I hope that isn't anyone you know. Actually you need to loosen up a little bit you are always so serious. Did you like the movie Sideways?
     
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    4.6 percent imports in one of the largest markets in the world. So much for free trade. :angry:
     
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    I've been to Tokyo on business twice in my life. The flight transfers do not count.

    Ever seen the traffic situation in the large centers? A Prius is a *large* car there. If I had to live there, I'd want something as tiny as possible for ease of parking.

    Not exactly the kind of market for the Silverado, Quad Cab, or F-150 Supercrew.
     
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    But really, the perfect market for a Mini or Smart.

    Malorn has a bit of a point here (no, really). Even if the Japanese customers want to buy Minis and Smarts (and they do, and they pay thru the teeth to pull them thru loopholes), it just isn't practical for Mini and Smart to sell cars on their own in Japan because the Japanese government has tariffs set up to protect their domestic manufacturers.

    Honestly I wouldn't complain one bit if congress would get off their collective rears and do the same to countries that play those games.
     
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    Hello from Japan,

    Such 6 million (5,851,922) is total vehicles including trucks and buses.
    The 99% of imported vehicls to Japan are passenger cars (245,610), so let's do calc with Japanese passenger cars (3,361,341).
    So, the imported passeger cars share is 7.3% in Japan.
    http://www.jaia-jp.org/jws/11j/200512shasyu.htm

    The top 5 are...
    VW 53,441
    Mercedes-Benz 45,852
    BMW 44,980
    Audi 15,420
    BMW Mini 13,602

    Note: Prius sales was 43,670, so it's just below BMW.
    I think our poeple know good, attractive and affordable cars. :)

    Ken@Japan
     
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    Trucks don't count in Japan? So we all feel better because VW sold 53,000 vehicles? Longo toyota in California sold half that amount themselves. Why exactly is the market not quite open there Ken?
     
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    I was curious what percentage of Toyota Camry's are imported to Japan. I heard it was over half. Yes, that's right, Toyota Camrys. Made in Kentucky, trucked to Oakland, and shipped to Japan. Why? Because American workers build better cars than Japanese workers. The UAW is another story...

    ken1784, see if you can find a camry on the streets with a 4 at the front of the VIN, or ask at the dealer. I'm curious to know.

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    When I first had my Ford Probe (back in 1990) I was reading one of the Ford newsletters. It was talking about the relationship Ford had with Mazda (the Probe was made in Dearborn at the Mazda plant for Ford). According to the newsletter one of the obstacles for the US auto makers to overcome in Japan was to be willing to put the steering wheel on the right side.
     
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    So much for not making cars that will easily fit on their narrow roads and don't bankrupt a guy everytime he fills the tank.

    If you had ever traveled to Japan you would easily understand why there are so very few imported cars there. Yes, there are "non-tarriff" barriers but it still can't totally account for the low number of imports since there are some larger cars built by Japanese car manufacturers for the people who can afford them. :p
     
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    As I mentioned trucks and buses are only about 1%, so my calc was based on passenger cars.
    Please note that SUV's are counted as passenger cars in Japan.
    I don't know why SUV's are counted as trucks in the US, maybe they are high emission low mileage, so big threes told goverment they must be trucks. :)

    I believe we are open.
    As you know, we drive on left lane and RHD or right hand drive car is comfortable.
    I think almost 100% of VW, Audi and BMW Mini are RHD and more than 50% of Mercedes-Benz and BMW are RHD, then almost 100% of big three cars are LHD (except from Europe such as Opel).
    The big threes did very few marketing effort here in Japan.

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    I don't have Camry number in my hand.
    There is a Top-30 list and Camry is not there.(Prius is the 26th 43,670)
    http://www.jada.or.jp/contents/data/ranking/index.php

    On the previous link...
    http://www.jaia-jp.org/jws/11j/200512shasyu.htm
    There is another table for Japanese brand imports.
    Toyota 12,523
    Honda 6,596

    I think it is hard to buid RHD Camry in Kentucky.

    PS(Edit): I think the most imported Toyota brand is Avensis from the UK.

    Ken@Japan
     
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    That's true. They usually don't bother converting so why would the Japanese buy something if the company themselves don't even bother trying. And yeah, fuel costs matters. When it's $2/litre fuel economy matters. They'd rather spend their money on technology. Also, ya the street thing. A Camry is HUGE. To them, a Camry is like a DeVille is to us. Even if they did buy American, they'd find a hard time parking and driving in the city.

    Also, don't you guys have to pay some tax every 3,5,7 etc years?