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Hybrid Dashboard Summary: April 2015

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, May 5, 2015.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Jeff Cobb's team did a great job but changes are coming:
    model Apr_15 Mar_15 Feb_15 Jan_15
    1 Prius Liftback 8822 9485 7070 7316
    2 Ram Pickup Diesel 5072
    3 Prius C 3523 3564 2701 2614
    4 Camry Hybrid 2650 2739 2110 2143
    5 Sonata 2481 1793 1605 672
    6 Prius V 2462 2516 1850 1913
    7 Passat Diesel 2182 1949 1387 970
    8 Jetta Diesel 1949 2409 1786 1555
    9 Model S 1900 2000 1400 1300
    10 Fusion Hybrid 1820 2534 2416 1782
    11 Leaf 1553 1817 1198 1070
    12 C-Max Hybrid 1237 1054 878 765
    13 CT200h 1170 1416 978 1005
    14 Accord Hybrid 1118 948 832 805
    15 GLK Class Diesel 1117 270 179 144
    16 Golf Sportwagon Diesel 928 87
    17 Spark 920 151 119 86
    18 Avalon Hybrid 906 902 864 912
    19 Volt 905 639 693 542
    20 Optima Hybrid 892 805 856 844
    21 Golf Diesel 821 841 631 730
    22 MKZ 810 717 480 468
    23 ES Hybrid 789 1076 758 746
    24 Fusion Energi 711 837 603 426
    25 C-Max Energi 553 715 498 395
    26 XV Crosstrek Hybrid 552 587 549 512
    27 Lacrosse Hybrid 531 497 514 326
    28 RX 400 / 450 h 492 641 494 521
    29 Q5 Diesel 486 464 309 306
    30 500E 450 164 117 119
    31 Cayenne Diesel 444 314 357 483
    32 A3 Diesel 438 240 178 225
    33 Prius Plug In 428 473 397 401
    34 X3 Diesel 426 20 258 93
    35 X5 Diesel 417 459 405 263
    36 i3* 406 922 1089 670
    37 Civic Hybrid 386 351 358 320
    38 GL-Class Diesel 371 377 265 235
    39 Q7 Diesel 355 345 234 158
    40 Cruze Diesel 345 387 262 186
    41 Touareg Diesel 323 273 232 257
    42 Grand Cherokee Diesel 321 336 275 128
    43 e-Golf 309 195 130 181
    44 Highlander Hybrid 305 295 256 268
    45 Q50 Hybrid 299 390 365 297
    46 3-Series Diesel 217 386 155 125
    47 CR-Z 216 255 175 196
    48 NX Hybrid 210 225 164 163
    49 Insight 183 209 211 223
    50 QX60 Hybrid* 170 195 179 129
    51 Pathfinder Hybrid* 167 258 212 184
    52 B-Class Electric 158 145 109 240
    53 i8 138 143 113 85
    54 A6 Diesel 130 94 72 74
    55 Focus EV 124 140 145 85
    56 forTwo EV 124 103 76 147
    57 Beetle Diesel 114 129 91 87
    58 ELR 104 92 127 92
    59 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 88 72 106 83
    60 Soul EV 73 63 48 69
    61 5-Series Diesel 65 106 79 52
    62 A7 Diesel 60 30 15 26
    63 E-Class Diesel 60 593 70 323
    64 Impala Hybrid 49 29 19 19
    65 Jetta Hybrid 41 45 36 50
    66 Civic 34 38 26 50
    67 Panamera S E-Hybrid 30 44 40 61
    68 Regal Hybrid 28 21 20 12
    69 A8 Diesel 24 35 17 15
    70 Promaster Van Diesel 18 23
    71 i 16 10 2 3
    72 Q70 Hybrid 15 22 14 19
    73 RLX Hybrid 15 18 21 14
    74 GS 450h 12 9 10 8
    75 Q5 Hybrid 7 9 10 8
    76 Accord Plug In 5 5 12 28
    77 LS 600h 5 7 7 5
    78 Malibu Hybrid 4 8 8 6
    79 ML Class Diesel 4 14 4 2
    80 ML Class Diesel 4 14 4 2
    81 RAV4 EV 4 4 2 7
    82 Yukon Hybrid 3 3 3 2
    83 ActiveHybrid 3 (335ih) 2 3 1 3
    84 ILX Hybrid 2 4 5 3
    85 ML450H 2 2
    86 ActiveHybrid 5 (535ih) 1 3
    87 Tahoe Hybrid 1 0 3 0
    88 7-Series ActiveHybrid 0 5
    89 E400H 0 13 3 30
    90 Escalade Hybrid 0 1 2 1
    91 Fit EV 0 1
    92 S-Class Diesel 0 1
    93 S400HV Hybrid 0 1
    94 Touareg Hybrid 0 3 1 2
    Source: Jeff Cobb's Hybrid Market Dashboard | HybridCars.comHybridCars.com (well worth reading!)

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    • Yes, that is a Ram Pickup Diesel - 20/23/28 City/Comb/Hwy - $3/gal diesel
    • Sonata hybrid made a nice recovery
    • Lower number models are showing some life
    Enjoy,
    Bob Wilson
     
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    The 1500 Ram diesel came out last year. Same for the Grand Cherokee, and I think the Promaster van is a Ram.
    Why are some of them showing up in the list now? Overlooked or break out numbers unavailable?

    Edit: Answered in the link. FCA doesn't break the numbers out. The Ram numbers are actually all sold since 2014 Jan. The 500e numbers have also been adjusted based on a new source, since it too isn't officially reported seperate.
     
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    Adding the Ram diesel has raised an old conflict that I had to face since pre-Prius days: total vehicle efficiency. I choose my first Prius because the City MPG was greater than the Highway MPG. Unlike ordinary cars, brake pads can last the life of the vehicle because regenerative braking is efficient in saving energy.

    In the early years at the old GreenHybrid.com site, we had diesel advocates who seemed as oblivious to efficiency as Bob Lutz. Yet every time I investigated diesel MPG using either EPA or Fuelly reports, I got the same numbers showing the best, user reported diesels barely overlapped the worst Prius mileage. Compared to an Otto cycle, diesel is 'less bad' but they both wear out their brake pads.

    So I plan to separate vehicles based upon the following, EPA ratings:
    • efficient: City MPG >= Highway MPG
    • others: City MPG < Highway MPG
    I am fully aware of the risk of using EPA numbers because our 2003 Prius and 2001 Echo were redefined:
    model original-current City original-current Highway
    1 2001 Echo 32->27 38->35
    2 2003 Prius 52->42 45->41

    Sad to say, the CARB rating does not change but a lot harder to find.

    There are cases where a diesel is the better tool. In like fashion, a gasser can be a better choice for low annual mileage owners. Yet I know when I reach work about 1/4th of the 4,000 lb trucks and SUVs are commuting vehicles, a huge waste of resources.

    I summarize the HybridCars monthly sales reports because I am interested in efficient vehicle sales. Sad to say, the Ram diesel pickup runs smack dab into my motivation: a life-long, Sisyphus struggle with the Second Law and the enemy, Entropy.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    thanks bob! toyota better do something quick, or they're gonna get left behind by all the fabulous competition!
    (thought i'd say it before the prius haters:cool:)
     
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    speaking of bob klutz, i wonder how his electric pick ups are doing?
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I was going to post this in 'Freds' but it explains the rot that was in GM 'leadership':
    Source: Former GM Euro Boss Docherty Takes Non-Auto CEO Job | TheDetroitBureau.com

    Former General Motors executive Susan Docherty, who was considered by some observers to be a candidate to be the first woman CEO at the automaker, has been appointed the CEO of the Canyon Ranch, the operator of spas and health resorts.


    Docherty left GM in September 2013 after holding series of top level positions in sales and marketing in North America, China and finally Europe where she was president of Cadillac and European operations.
    . . .

    Having 'hands on' experience in all aspects of vehicle manufacture is what makes sense in the CEO. But apparently this executive is just as happy switching to "spas and health resorts." Would that Wagner/Lutz had done the same in 1998!

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Prius LB+c+v only down about -5% (53831 vs. 566222 last year) vs. hybrid category down -16%: Prius actually getting stronger !!

    Not too shabby for Prius but April was weaker than I had hoped, I was hoping for 0% YTD reduction. as always, wait for next month. I've learned to focus on Hybrid category.
     
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    i'm not concerned about it, it's so tied to gas prices, patience is a virtue.
     
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    Toyota posts gain, needs more trucks

    More push coming for Camry/Prius from Toyota (0% 60 mo)
    hmm...you can read between lines for what happened to PiP (shifting production to meet SUV sales?)
     
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    or just low demand, are they hard to come by?
     
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    The EPA city test cycle is a simulated 11 miles long with 23 stops. A higher city mpg than highway may not be indictitive of efficient propulsion as much as the ICE just getting turned off at stops.
     
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    I tossed this chart together from the EPA fueleconomy.gov site:
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    • all diesels
    • diagonal is City MPG = Highway MPG
      • all hybrids with City MPG >= Highway MPG (17 of 46)
      • all electrics with City MPG >= Highway MPG (11 of 16)
    Based on this initial survey, only 28 hybrids and EVs meet my selection criteria. But I still don't like using the EPA ratios because another 'revision' could throw things into turmoil.

    Engine off at stops are not enough. The engine has to be off for a significant part of the test; the AC, brakes, transmission, and steering have to be efficient and; the engine has to be efficient from cold-start.

    Bob Wilson
     
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