I don't think the Prius is a good long range daily driver

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by rondocap, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. rondocap

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    OK, so the gas mileage is fantastic - and that does make it great for long drives.

    But here's my problem, I don't think the Prius was really designed for long, daily drives and commutes aside from the MPG. It seems like it is more for in the city driving, and shorter distances.

    Why? First, the driving position is fairly awkward. Hard to describe, but it just does not feel ergonomic like a true "drivers" car should be. Secondly, the seats are lackluster, and very uncomfortable. Really hard seats, especially with the cloth.

    And it's not just me: Look at the countless threads about people complaining about leg and back pain, and how to pad or change seats, etc.

    I love it for the MPG, and all they have to do is tweak the driving position so it's more like the CT200H, and fix the seats, so it's more like the CT200H. Oops, maybe I'll just have to get a CT200H. Ha.

    What do you guys think about this issue?
     
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    That there's already countless threads... ;)
     
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    I think that when you buy the base (lowest) version of a vehicle there are surely things you'll find you don't like. I bought the IV (now Four) to get the lumbar adjustment, as I'm sure I would have had issues with the seats on long drives without it. Of course I also wanted heated/leather seats, but knowing I already have lower back issues the lumbar adjustment was/is a must.

    I don't think a car manufacturer can make a seat that will be comfortable for 100% of the population anyway.
     
  4. rondocap

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    True - but a Toyota Plugin base costs $32,000, which is very expensive to have subpar seats.
     
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    I have owned a Gen 2 (which I drove to both Charleston SC and Minneapolis MN) and now a v. (My longest trip so far is to Panama City Beach FL)

    It is restful to drive in, my wife and I trade seats at each stop to avoid (eye) fatigue and the miles roll by.

    My daily routine is usually between 110 and 250 miles, visiting clients.
     
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    I have no problem with seat comfort. I am old enough to collect senior citizen discounts just about everywhere; I am 6' and just over 200 lb. (What I would call an athletic build - although the sports are slightly different than when I was younger.)
    And I have owned everything from sports cars to full-sized trucks.
    Longest trip in the Prius (so far) is 700 miles one way.
     
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    I have a 52 mile RT daily commute and have no problem with the 2010 Three cloth seats. I also make regular 4 hour trips to see our grandkids again with no issues with the seats.
     
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    You can't compare a PiP and expect similar features to other $32ooo cars. You can't get the hybrid synergy drive and Plug-in for nothing.
     
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    I have my car for 4 years. I have never had a problem with the seats. As for threads complaining about pain I think that people who have complaints tend to post more than those who have no problems. Maybe you should tell your doctor about your physical problems. Hopefully your doctor can help you. Good luck.
     
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    No issues with long drives or seats here either...
     
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    I have gotten used to the seats and driving position but since I didn't drink the Kool-Aid when it was offered to me, I can still say they are lackluster.

    What is it about some Prius owners that when a poster says they are less then thrilled with some aspect of a Prius, so many of them say things like "You should tell your doctor". Get a grip, it's not like they insulted your girl friend or your AppleĀ® product.
     
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    My work commute is about 50 minutes / 45 miles each way. As long as I drive my comfortable truck at least 1-2 days per week I don't have any issues with my back. I don't believe I would get anywhere close to the Prius' interior space & MPG in any other car.
     
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    Did you ever think that people are trying to help the person? No need to get nasty when someone is trying to help. Maybe the driver has a physical problem that can be helped. I work in the medical field.
     
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    We had padded/heated leather seat covers put in our C-2 4 days after we bought it. The only time I might feel uncomfortable is when I am stressing to improve my mileage. I feel myself all tensed up and have to relax. Our longest round trip was 1700 miles. I found it a comfortable ride. I use the center armrest most all of the time.
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    Driving 75-80 to work 20 miles each way I got 48mpg last week, this week slowed down to 65 and i'm sitting at 55.7 even with our temps dipping into the low 50's at night. Not to mention the drive is less stressful and safer. I find the seats more comfortable than the G35 but not as comfortable as the Ram (like a couch)
     
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    I drove my bmw 335i for a few hours the other day - and two things struck me: The seating position is superior, the cockpit envelops you and it's ergonomic. Secondly, the seats are supportive and comfortable.

    To preface - I think the Prius is a fantastic car efficiency wise. But the seating position is not really ergonomic, and the seats are not supportive and too hard.

    I'm OK after some time, and some 100 miles - but as you go along, it gives me pains I never felt before and never feel in my other car - mainly in my thigh and buttocks. (The thigh I attribute to the way the seating position is, it's my left - and the buttocks are the hard seats)


    This is what lead me to come to the conclusion that just because the Prius is efficient, does not necessarily make it a great heavy duty driver for your body.

    I really think the base plugin, which is more expensive than the most decked out regular Prius, should really have lumbar support and better seats at the least. Heck, even a Lexus has lumbar and synthetic leather sports seats for less!!

    Are we really paying so many several thousands just to plug it in? If I didn't get a great lease deal on it versus a regular Prius due to incentives, I'd be mad.

    I guess lesson learned - it's a great car, but only can really only find out if it's for you or not after several thousand miles of driving.

    My plan is to put leather in it, and memory foam in the drivers seat - hopefully that will cure the seat and become comfortable, albeit there is no cure for the seating position.

    I really don't mean to sound like I'm complaining heavily or hating on the car, I really do like it - that's why these important details upset me more. It's so close to being a great package.
     
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    There's your problem, you're comparing a $25,000 vehicle to a $42,000 vehicle.

    I smell a troll.........


    But, yes, Toyota did many trade-offs to make it affordable compared with most mid-size cars that are the US target for competition (Fusion, Passat, Impala) and shave weight for extra gas mileage.

    If the comfort bothers you, modify the rear suspension as many do around here (prius does not have MacPherson struts on the rear) or make seat improvements.

    For those desiring a comfort ride sacrificing a little more gas mileage, the Ford C-Max / Fusion Hybrid is designed for that market (too bad the C-Max design sucks and so does the name).


    I'm sure if you fork over the extra $12,000, you can get a pretty darn comfortable ride.
     
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    I put leather upholstery in my Gen III with gel pads in the front seats and it helped a bit. They are still econocar seat though so that doesn't help the seating position or shape. I got used to that and no longer mind them, but YMMV.
     
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    I know the BMW is more expensive - I was illustrating that comparison more to showcase that I physically can be in another car all day without pain, to dispel that notion that I have discomfort in the Prius because something is wrong with me, and not the car.

    But even at this price point, I think it's just a mistake. There are cheaper cars with better seats.
     
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    Perhaps th best investment Toyota can make to improve brand Loyality is put great seats in the car. The extra money is well worth it. If they just had a seat upgrade option people would just do it. I know I would.
     
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