I love my car but... bladder tank problem

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  1. golfmk681

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    Pardon me ranting.

    Ok so this car is 260k miles, 2006 model. Love this car. Great for my 100 mike commute. But this bladder tank issue is so annoying. I was hoping to fill my car once a week when I got it (using my other car, a gas guzzler one work day, but my max fuel I can pump is 6.5 gas I gotta go to the gas station 2x a week. When I commuted with my guzzler, I was fueling every 2-3 days for work. So I was thinking oh man, I’ll be able to pump 1x a week for work given the car has 11gas I think. But I’m back to 2x a week. The consolation is my fuel cost is half what it was.
    I’ve tried using slow fill setting at the pump but doesn’t seem to make a difference.
    Worst is I see guys on here with pictures of their info screen showing 430 miles range on the 2g I’m seriously jealous.anywayyyyy just ranting and looking for ideas. I was thinking about carrying a girl cannister lol


    Anyone here who commutes looking forward to when the Chevy bolt is 10 yrs old and cost $5k. I would be so down to use that as a commuter car. I’ll fill up my nice euro gas car 2-3x a month. I won’t have to get gas every 3 days!!!
     
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    If it disturbs you so much, why not have a new tank fitted at your friendly local Toyota dealer? My 2008 had a new tank fitted in 2014 (by a previous owner) and I can go 20-25 days between fill ups.
     
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    If you do decide to buy a new tank, it will run you $450-550 for parts (discounted) plus labor.
     
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    Step 1) Get gas in the heat of the day, the bladder will be most flexible
    Step 2) Open the filler cap before anything else at the gas station, give the pressure time to equalize.
    Step 3) Try an inverted nozzle, sometimes upside down allows better air flow
    Step 4) Sometimes slower nozzle speed equal bigger fill ups.
     
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    Really that’s not bad. I did not think it was possible to get it fitted for a reasonable price
     
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    While European models don't have these bladders in the tanks, I have to ask:
    Is that bladder mandatory in every/your state? Or can it simply be removed?
     
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    Is it a bladderless tank? Or with bladder, but being new it works better?

    Addendum: it's would very likely be with bladder, North American emissions regulations. Price link, fwiw:

    McGeorge Toyota Parts Online product search | Toyota Parts
     
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    I have no idea if it has a bladder, but I assume so.
     
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    My old Camry had a problem filling that turned out to be a clogged charcoal filter for the emissions stuff. Not sure if Prius has or needs that, but I suspect it does.

    Edit to add, the shop told me that that happens when you top it off too much and/or too often.
     
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    There is a fuel inclination calibration you can do for that model as well. Yes when weather changes and gets extremely cold it will at the worst only take a couple gallons but there have been times where the gauge is off due to it getting calibration out of whack. Let me know if you want to try it out.
     
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    it is not mandatory, but part of toyota's design. it cannot be removed. it was simply poor engineering to meet emissions that they corrected in 2010.
     
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    i wonder how many miles will be left in a 10year old bolt.
     
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    what is a girl canister?(n) sounds illegal.:whistle:
     
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    We have the same bladder problem, but I am not sure it is bladder problem.
    Had a good fill-up last week to 8.3-gals by pumping real
    s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-w-w-w-w-w-w-w

    I've had no luck at all pumping just slow, but super duper slow, just drips, may work.
    This means a time commitment at the pump.

    @dolj has said this so maybe that works, but also seems better in summer here anyways so will do more testing
     
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    think of it like an ev. put it on drip mode, and go have dinner or do some shopping.
     
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    I actually think the bladder issue is worse with 2006 models
     
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    It's a one time fix, just a PITA. My 06 did the same thing many years ago, was only able to get 3-4 gallons in at a time. Instead of going super slow and all that, I just filled up 3 times a day. Took a few days, but it popped right back out and hasn't been an issue since. Filled it up until shut off, went away. Came back at lunch, filled up a bit more, went away. Came back after work and filled up a bit more, went away.
     
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    Let me know pls
     
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    Dammit. So when I did the slow fill method, yah it kept filling and filling and filling. So I’m thinking, “awesome” these Prius guys are great!!!!

    But I wanted to check just Incase it is overfilling so when I had 7.327 gallons in. I took out the nozzle about 1-3 quarts was spilling out. Needless to say any theories guys? I’m leaning more toward replacing the gas tank so I can get 450 miles to tank next year. My battery, engine, transmission seems like it’s working great knock on wood so I wanna keep this car up to 7yrs or more. Knock on wood aiming for 500k miles.
     
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