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... I want to blow up my Tesla!

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  1. asjoseph

    asjoseph Samuel, '04 Ruthiemobile

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    argh!:eek: i would have given him 20,000 euros for it :p

    how many miles on her?:cautious:

    zero hedge = short seller? :whistle:
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Click bait.

    I didn't......
    Saw that movie once before about 15 years ago with Priuses.
    The re-make probably will be the same old plot with new actors.

    Granted.....$cience and "data" will probably continue to be obfuscated WRT the real-world carbon cost for this car type, but one presumes that once they rape the planet for the minerals necessary for things like batteries and magnets, those items will be recycled and BEVs will be BOTH kinda green.......

    Meanwhile....

    Nothing to see here.
     
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    The site's disclaimer is so comprehensive it just gets funnier and funnier.

    I think you could safely say anybody losing money on a zerohedge.com promotion was given every chance to avoid it...

    Just a short sample:

     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    A 2013 would have been one of the first Tesla's on the road. Assuming Finland averages, it would have 68k miles
     
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    Can we blow it up with a cruise missile so easily?
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Don't need a cruise missile.
    An AGM-114x missile will do the job quite nicely, and you can buy one for about the price of a Plaid. (+ launcher.)
     
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    what was the question?(n)
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Define: Click Bait.

    Extra Credit: Targeted at EVangelists.
     
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    Nicely done. Satisfying explosion and good cinematography to go with. (I love shooting with Phantoms!)

    I would hope that the revenue from YouTube helps take the sting out of the car failing so early.

    The stunt driver gag was funny, or at least I've chosen to see it as a very light-hearted jab at the CEO.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    But we don't know why the battery failed. We don't even know the actual miles on the car. This car could have been beat to hell for all we know.

    While the $22,500 for a replacement battery is steep, that Model S would have cost over $80,000, after incentives, when new in Norway. The average miles on it would be called low miles for the US. There was a good chance the suspension and other systems were still in good shape. The body, and other parts, are aluminum, so road salt couldn't have done much to the car.

    This car could have been a lemon. It happens. The article was very light on details. From it, blowing the car up sounds like an over reaction. Parting the car out could have helped out with buying a newer, used Tesla there, or any car for that matter.

    Tax Exemptions in Norway Cut Tesla Model S Price in Half
     
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    Katainen said right in the video that he was disappointed by the car, I just took that at face value. I don't really need to know the dirty details.

    If he thought it was worth blowing up his property that's fine by me, just glad he was able to share the moment- a good video!
     
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    If I was in his shoes (a car that I didn't like enough to spend 1/4 of the purchase price anything on fixing it) I think blowing it up would generate a bit of fun. What would be a lot more satisfying to me is to give it to someone who wants an EV and would be happy to have a Model S for the $22k cost of a battery. Shoot, I'd pay that for a relatively low miles Model S even if it was 8 years old. Right now, Tampa Hybrids has a 2014 Model S P85 with 205k miles for $34k.
     
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    it was probably a short seller, who picked one up salvage
     
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    Chemistry lesson, free. Flee, flee!

    Aluminum is by no means immune to corrosion from chloride, or any other occupant of those right-hand columns of the periodic table of 'oh crap, we were supposed to know that for the exam?'. It betters iron against oxides and hydroxides because its O-Ho-Ho compounds are large molecules, and swell to protect underlying layers. Which is swell. But a fat roof only offers so much protection. Cars (and airplanes etc.) have a lot of vibration and tend to shed their surface protection layers. Which means long service lives depend on coatings.

    Pretty sure one can still buy chromate primer from boat shops and Aircraft Spruce. Well yeah, cancer, but one dies faster if one's metal appliance disassembles in use. I doubt I've ever flown in an airplane without the wearing of the green. Readers may have heard of 'anodizing' but it's oh-so-thin.

    Tesla etc. spot weld their Al-alloy pieces together, and frankly I have no idea if those become corrosion hot spots. One never allows dissimilar metals in contact, right? General knowledge?

    I am interested in how Aluminum road vehicles avoid corrosion over the long term, but have seen no studies. Maybe old Teslas are old enough to examine in that way.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Even stainless steel will rust in the right environment. Aluminum should hold up better than steel. Unless the environment is alkaline. Aluminum can be, well, dissolved by some bases. The reaction with lye water starts right up. Found that out when washing parts I was told were stainless.

    Land Rovers had an aluminum body from the beginning up to at least the Defender models, if looking into corrosion prevalence. The frames were steel, so that has to be considered.
     
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    I don't know about vehicles, but our first set of antennas on the island of Roatán inly lasted a couple years before they failed. They had turned into a white powder. I have a friend who flies his plane to the Bahamas several times a year and stays for a week to a month. He has the inside surfaces (especially the wings, for some reason :)) treated with a corrosion inhibitor.

    I saw that a lot in 23 years of aluminum beverage can making. The cans get cleaned and etched for coatings in an acid spray. Every yew years, they have to patch or replace parts of the 316 stainless steel washer.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Seawater is more than salts. Other chemicals are responsible for it's basic pH. Those would be worse for aluminum than the salt.
     
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