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Identifying the CTS Gas Pedal of the Toyota Recall

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Rokeby, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Rokeby

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    The current concern over the apparent unreliability of a small number
    of gas pedals on ten Toyota model vehicles and the Pontiac Vibe is being
    widely covered by all the media.

    Affected Toyota vehicles:
    • 2005-2010 Avalon
    • 2009-2010 RAV4
    • 2007-2010 Camry
    • 2008-2010 Sequoia
    • 2009-2010 Corolla
    • 2005-2010 Tacoma
    • 2008-2010 Highlander
    • 2007-2010 Tundra
    • 2009-2010 Matrix
    • 2009-2010 VENZA

    Unaffected vehicles:
    • Sienna
    • Solara
    • Yaris
    • 4Runner
    • FJ Cruiser
    • Land Cruiser
    • 2004-2009 Prius -- but still subject to the Floor Mat recall
    • 2010 Prius

    FYI, Here is some hard data, photographs and discussion, on the CTS gas
    pedals that have been identified as the probable source of the concern.

    cts-pedal-denso.jpg

    From this article at tuneyfish.com which has more detail on telling the
    difference between the affected CTS pedals and the unaffected Denso
    pedal also used by Toyota.

    Here is a statement from the CTS corporation on the matter.

    And some details on how the gas pedals are designed.

    Many thanks to the good folks at tuneyfish.com for this info.
     
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    My sister has an '09 Vibe and I took a look under the dash this weekend and it appears to have the CTS pedal. We talked about what to expect should the pedal cause problems and how to handle it (#1 is brake, #2 is remain calm, #3 is shift to N). Will be interesting to see how/when the dealer handles this...
     
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    And there's more:

    First some additional analysis or the pedals themselves from
    The Truth About Cars:

    "On initial observation, it appears that the CTS may be perceived as
    being the more solidly engineered/built unit, in that the pedal pivots
    on a traditional and solid steel axle whose bearings are brass or
    bronze sleeves. The Denso’s whole pivot and bearing surfaces are
    relatively flimsy-feeling plastic. But that can be deceptive, and we’re
    not qualified to judge properly if it is indeed inferior or superior. But
    according to our sources, the Denso unit will likely be recalled too.
    So
    the question that goes beyond the analysis of these e-pedals is this:
    are these units really the full source of the problem, or are they scape
    goats for an electronics and/or software glitch? Pictures and tear down
    examination and analysis follows..."
    in the full article.

    And there are other vehicle manufacturer and Canadian connections:

    "Maker of Toyota gas pedal ramping up production to meet replacement
    demand
    By Kristine Owram (CP) – 3 days ago

    "TORONTO — The fact that a faulty accelerator implicated in a massive
    recall of Toyota vehicles was manufactured in Canada will have a
    negligible impact on the Canadian auto parts industry, says the head
    of an association representing suppliers..."

    "CTS also makes pedals for Honda Motor Co., Mitsubishi Motors, Nissan
    Motor Co. and Ford Motor Co., but the company said pedals made for
    those manufacturers don't have the same design. Still, Ford on Thursday
    halted production of some full-sized commercial vehicles in China because
    they contain CTS gas pedals..."

    Full Canadian Press article here.
     
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    The possible negative effects on consumers and investors not only
    stretches from North America to Asia, but to Europe as well. There are
    possible further recalls in France, and subsidiary effects extending to
    the Czech Republic. At this point it is safe to say that this is as much
    or more an issue for the CTS Corporation as it is for Toyota.

    In France, Reuters reports that Renault has this to say:

    "PARIS, Feb 1 (Reuters) - Renault does not share common parts
    with Toyota, the world no. 1 automaker fighting to salvage its
    reputation after a massive safety recall, a spokeswoman for the
    French carmaker said on Monday.

    "'Renault vehicles use neither the same pedals, nor the same parts as
    those of Toyota,' the spokeswoman said in a statement."


    However, Peugeot and Citroen may not be so lucky:

    "Peugeot and Citroen have models that are potentially the same car
    as the Toyota Aygo which is among eight of the brand’s models being
    recalled over potentially faulty accelerator pedals.

    "The Aygo, 107 and C1 models have been developed by the French and
    Japanese car firms and are built on the same production line at a plant
    in the Czech Republic as part of a joint venture.

    "A total of 1.8 million Toyotas in Europe are expected to be involved in
    one of the largest recalls in recent years.

    "However, while the Aygo uses an electronically-controlled accelerator
    pedal that is at the centre of the recall issue, the French brands only
    used this pedal in models fitted with stability control systems (ESP) or
    automatic gearboxes."


    Full story in the Irish Times
     
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