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If Broadcom's bid to buy Qualcomm succeeds, battle may ensue

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    Who will be the winner in the connected car market: Broadcom-Qualcomm or Intel?

    Qualcomm itself is trying to buy NXP Semiconductors, a maker of automotive chips from so-called "infotainment" system chips to camera systems, for $38 billion. It is unclear whether that deal will go through and whether Broadcom would take on NXP, but Broadcom has said it is willing to do so.

    Intel has bought itself into relationships with autonomous car developers thanks to its acquisition of vision system maker Mobileye. Broadcom would get something similar with NXP, Juliussen said.

    Qualcomm buy may pit Broadcom against Intel in 'connected car' fight| Article [AMP]| Reuters

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    Are there open datasheets and application notes for these chips?

    Given the Apple-Qualcomm patent fights, I suspect many of the technical details are 'proprietary.' This makes it difficult to form an opinion. We ran into the same problem looking at some of the Toyota patent fights.

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    Qualcomm & Broadcom are also the two major RF chip manufacturers for enterprise Wi-Fi systems.

    I know our vendor, the 2nd largest in the industry, tends to choose whichever one is ready earliest with the latest Wi-Fi features. If they merge, that makes a vitual monopoly.
     
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    The monopoly issue is a big one. If AT&T had not been broken up, we'd all be happy with our 128kbs xDSL service, right?

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    Eventually everything will be owned by Softbank lol.

    NXP also holds a bunch of IP for communication standards too. I see all these semiconductor merging moves as bad for the consumer, bad for the employees, bad for the company, but great for the short term gain and benefit of the share holders and board. The stock shoots up in price and they can sell before the damaged company goes into decline.
     
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    Broadcom-NXP-Qualcomm vs Intel-Nvidia sounds like a duopoly to me.

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    I have seen some Intel client Wi-Fi chipsets but I think all enterprise service is either Broadcom or Qualcomm.
     
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    $diety$ help us if SoftBank owns everything, it might get run into the ground as badly as Sprint! Masayoshi Son let a pretty good deal slip away by not letting Deutsche Telekom have full control in the proposed merger with T-Mobile. It was definitely not a merger of equals, and he couldn't bear to admit it.

    Disclaimer: I am a happy T-Mobile customer and shareholder.

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    The largest enterprise networking gorilla company uses all custom ASICs for their network processing. Pretty sweet looking chips. A giant PITA delivering sub-volt 0.5% accurate power at 300A+.

    There are still other chip companies out there. But they too are being gobbled up. TI being the biggest player and loving to eat smaller companies.
     
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    AT&T is trying to rid itself of its U-verse DSL business and switch people over to cable, dish or fiber products, where available.

    There are 2 large SLC-50 boxes on the parkway in front of the buildings in my part of the complex, but AT&T doesn't provide service here unless you get a dish.

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    Keep me far away from a 300A+ wireless radio!!!
     
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    The radio itself consumes little power, a couple watts total for all the antennae. But the logic driving the routing and all the spying... I mean "management" software consumes a bunch of power.
     
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