I'm sick and tired of hearing about GMs "revolutionary" cars!!

I suggest stocking up on tin foil.

I am not sure why you hate the US government, and am not at all sure I want to know.

Letting that hatred spread to trying to 'explain' Consumer Reports is going to take a lot of Tin Foil.

Starting in mid September every year, major automobile vendors roll out the new models. (Even before the government practiced bailouts) If you wish to avoid new car reports in the media, I would skip September to December publications.

(I am no fan of GM, but I base that on having driven their products, not my politics)

 

A valid question is "what is the Prius content?" In times past, I've posted marginal to Prius news in "Fred's" or one of the vehicle/manufacturer specific forums.

Bob Wilson

 

In reply to your comment on the Chevy Cruze thread and this thread...

are you suggesting that competition is bad and censorship is good?
In the absence of competition and free speech, we would all be slaves, building Egyptian pyramids without modern tools. We'd still be in the bronze age, because the discoverer of iron would have been censored and his competition to bronze would have been silenced.

I was hoping that the Chevy Cruze and Ford Fiesta would help motivate Toyota and other automakers to further improve fuel efficiency on their entire fleet, including the Yaris and Corolla.

With what has occurred over the past few days at the G20 meetings, coupled with all the empty factories in Detroit, I think America would be VERY unwise in allowing GM to disappear. In the context of what is occurring at the G20 right now, I find your anti-GM comments to be directly anti-American. If America falls into a depression, Toyota will suffer heavily. Remember 2008/2009?

 

Consumer Reports is not much of a fan of GM. They're a non-profit, BTW. Car and Driver magazine, for example, are almost universal fans of BMW and GM cars often do poorly in their reviews. I'm no GM fan and you'll find that to be the case from my posts.

(US) media being (US) government controlled? Right... If you want that, go look at North Korea or China.

As for the moderators publishing info... I don't think any are guilty of publishing "too much" such info. Are you suggesting they censor or delete posts made by PC users about the Volt or GM, esp. positive ones? I don't think that's fair and they shouldn't be censoring such posts.

I always take post about other cars into the "Other Cars" area or one of its sub-forums. This particular thread is currently in the wrong area. It doesn't qualify as "Prius and Hybrid News" to me.

Some of us do care about discussing GM's announcements, lies, the pros and cons of their cars, technical details, etc.

 

As far as tv media goes, we have MSNBC on the left, CNN in the middle and Fox way on the right! They all seem to blast the Govt., so that's a lousy job of control if you ask me! We like threads about GM's debacles here cause it gives us so many opportunities to shred the illusions they try to pass off as "Revolutionary"! Would the U.S. be better off right now if GM was allowed to collapse, along with the entire auto parts and service infrastructure? Doubt it!

 

I knew I did not want to know. I swear I should have invested in tin foil once we elected a black president. At least you know how to spell his name.

 

I'm tired of hearing about the Volt too, and think their FUD is so egregious that it should be the subject of a criminal investigation. I don't like Consumer Reports and won't re-subscribe until Toyota rids itself of Board member Ralph Nader (whose politics I like, except for his hatred of Toyota), but I don't think I remember them being big supporters of our government. They do support reform of the "health care industry" (an oxymoron if there ever was one- "care" from a corporation? Well, other than "Truman"). I do have problems associating the neo-cons with the Zionist Movement. I was unaware that neo-cons liked the socialists of the Zionist Movement (not that all zionists were socialists). I'm pretty sure Dick Cheney would be unlikely to visit a kibbutz.

But I see little connection between the enthusiasm for the Volt and a government conspiracy. I've always been skeptical of such theories- Americans make bad conspirators- we don't like to keep secrets. The Volt is, as noted above, in my opinion, has been almost criminally misrepresented, but time will tell. It's better for the real EV producers- Nissan, BMW (MINI), Tesla and Coda. The Volt is about the most forward-thinking vehicle produced by GM since the Fiero. Hope the Volt turns out better than the Fiero...

 

You can't be serious. If the media were government controlled, they would speak with one voice. Media opinions are all over the map. Our government isn't organized enough to control the government, let alone the media. Controlling the media is akin to herding cats.

If you really believe your statement, it's time for a bigger roll of tinfoil.

Tom

 

I am sooooooo bummed that I didn't invest in tinfoil.
Maybe it isn't to late...

 

Oh, great. we have antisemitism, and racism, we can pretty much count on his next post blaming it all on Gays and/or Catholics and/or Muslims.*


*When he gets to godless Agnostics, he is finally dissing me.

 

What is wrong with the Volt?

Just been looking at the US Chevrolet website and it appears the Volt is due to be released anytime soon. Sure it has many shortcomings, but if they actually do release it next month, it will be the first 25-50 mile electric only car from a 'proper' manufacturer.

You've got to give them credit for that.