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Is a “new” used engine worth it

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by D11382001, Jul 25, 2023.

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    Is a “new” used engine worth it?


    The Toyota dealer says that there are two holes in the engine of my 2007 Prius. They quoted me for 5,500 for a “new” used engine. They estimated that it could add another 150-200k miles to the life of my car.


    Has anyone dealt with replacing their entire engine before? If so how long did it run? Are these estimates fair?
     
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    The Toyota dealer says that there are two holes in the engine of my 2007 Prius. They quoted me for 5,500 for a “new” used engine. They estimated that it could add another 150-200k miles to the life of my car.


    Has anyone dealt with replacing their entire engine before? If so how long did it run? Are these estimates fair?
     
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    That price from the Stealership is double what most mechanics would charge... Find a mechanic who does lots of engine swaps and then go find an low mileage replacement engine.
     
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    There are several new to you engine options. Plenty of cars have replacement engines.

    1. Straight junkyard used engine. No rebuild of anything, no new gaskets, no real guarantee. Generally the lowest cost. $1500-$2500 installed. Could break two weeks later, could be a severe oil burner, could be a disaster. But often tried, high risk, low cost.

    2. A JDM used in Japan engine. Usually some guarantee, higher installed cost, maybe $2500-$3500.

    3. A used engine with a partial teardown and inspection, reassembled with a machined head and new gaskets. Typically solves head gasket issues and oil leaks on the used engine if existing. Some guarantee. Maybe $3000-$3500.

    4. A used engine with a complete rebuild including teardown, inspection, new rings, bearings, machined head but with existing accessories like water pumps. Often a decent warranty and best bet for 150,000 miles. Usually the dealer option. Sometimes a dealer will include a complete new short block (bottom end with pistons and rings) $3500-$7000.

    5. Similar to #4, a complete rebuild by a professional engine shop shipped to your local mechanic for installation. Often better quality than a local shop attempting a rebuild. $3500-$5000.

    Typically auxiliary parts are replaced as needed or if requested on top of any of these options. Water pumps, thermostats, intake manifolds, plugs etc if yours are carboned up or bad. Extra cost but usually definable upfront.

    SO, the thing to do is determine WHAT the dealer is providing for $5500. A guarantee of 90 days is next to worthless. Ask for details.

    Pricing varies but a knowledgeable owner can shop and get real value. Dealers are often half again to twice the cost of better independents.

    Number five from HybridPit in socal:
    Prius gen3 hybrid pit rebuild ebay.jpeg
     
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