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Is the latest Bin Laden Tape a fake?

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  1. jared2

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    OSAMA TAPE APPEARS TO BE FAKE, EXPERTS CONCLUDE

    US government fabricating evidence to manipulate American public, scholars say


    Duluth, MN (PRWEB) 28 May 2006 — The latest audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden appears to be one more installment in a succession of evidence fabricated by the US government to deceive the American people, according to Scholars for 9/11 Truth. "This tape is only the latest in a series of fabrications intended to mislead the American people," said James H. Fetzer, the society's founder. "The closer we get to revealing he truth about 9/11, the more furiously the government fights to conceal it!" He said members of Scholars and other experts had detected evidence of fakery.

    In this new recording, a voice attributed to Osama bin Laden asserts that Zacarias Moussaoui was not involved in 9/11, which he knew to be the case because he had personally assigned the 19 hijackers involved in those events. The Osama of this tape thereby implicitly confesses his responsibility for orchestrating the attacks. However, in a tape released on December 27, 2001, the authenticity of which is not in doubt, Osama denied having had anything to do with 9/11. "Moreover," Fetzer added, "some of the 19 hijackers he 'personally assigned' have turned up alive and well."

    To be sure, this new tape is not the first one in which bin Laden appears to take responsibility for the attacks. As David Ray Griffin, a prominent member of Scholars, points out, "The Osama on the video tape that appeared on December 13, 2001, confessed to planning the 9/11 attacks. But he is far darker and much heavier than the real Osama bin Laden. People can see the difference by looking up 'The Fake bin Laden Video Tape' on google."

    Griffin's point is supported by a work-in-progress by members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which appears on its web site under the heading, "9/11: Have we been lied to?" It offers evidence of fakery in some of the videos based upon various physical properties of the figures that are presumed to be Osama, pointing out that there are differences in the ears, cheeks, eyebrows, length of the nose and shape of the nostrils. "The use of computer analysis can 'fine tune' these questions of facial characteristics," Fetzer said, "but the gross differences already show they are not the same."

    Content Inconsistencies

    "Another problem with the video of December 13, 2001," Griffin pointed out, "was that its stocky bin Laden praised two of the alleged hijackers, Wail M. Al-Shehri and Salem al-Hazmi, by name, and yet both the London Telegraph and the Saudi embassy reported several days after 9/11 that al-Hazmi was still alive and working in Saudi Arabia. Given the fact that the earlier video in which Osama confessed was clearly a fake, we should be suspicious of this latest apparent confession."

    A professor at Duke, Bruce Lawrence, who has published Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden, expressed profound skepticism about a tape that was released January 17, 2006, in a report that appeared two days later. "There's nothing in this from the Koran," Lawrence said. "He's, by his own standards, a faithful Muslim who quotes scripture in defense of his actions. There's no quotation from the Koran in the excerpts we got, no reference to specific events, no reference to past atrocities." Lawrence also observed the tape ran only 10 minutes, whereas the shortest previous tape, at 18 minutes, was nearly twice as long.

    Fetzer noted that many of the same anomalous properties are found in the latest tape. "Compared to Osama's past performances," he observed, "this message is too short, too direct, and full of falsehoods. It was even described on CBS News by Bob Schieffer as 'almost American'." A translation of the text of the tape has also been released by IntelCenter, a private company that does contract work for the US government. "I suppose I would be accused of being a 'conspiracy theorist' to suggest there is any connection," Fetzer added.

    Authentic Voice/Fake Content

    Informed that Reuters news agency has reported confirmation that the voice on the tape is indeed that of Osama bin Laden, Fetzer replied, "The fact that the voice is his does not prove that the tape is authentic. We have had phony tapes before using voices that were authentic. Mark Bingham, a passenger on Flight 93, is supposed to have called his mother and said, ' Mom, this is Mark Bingham!' His mother confirmed it was his voice, but does anyone seriously believe that Mark Bingham would have used his last name in identifying himself to his mother?"

    Griffin agreed, adding, "Back in 1999, William Arkin published an article entitled, 'When Seeing and Hearing isn't Believing' (which can also be accessed on google). Describing the new technology of 'voice morphing' (or 'voice synthesizing'), Arkin explained that, if audio technicians have a recording of your voice, then they can create a tape in which your voice—your authentic voice!—says anything they wish."

    In a press release on April 22, 2006, the Scholars observed that a tape played at the trail of Zacarias Moussaoui included discussion among the passengers about using a drink cart to break down the cabin door alleged to have been picked up on a cockpit voice recorder, which does not record conversations in the passenger cabin. "This is not the first and certainly will not be the last time that the American government plays the American people for suckers," Fetzer said.

    "We have just acquired new evidence that the Pentagon video tapes were processed and manipulated in an apparent effort to distort or conceal what happened there on 9/11," Fetzer observed. "Apparently, whenever the government feels the need to bolster the official myth about 9/11, it simply fabricates a new tape! Anybody who wants to keep score should visit our web site."

    Scholars for 9/11 Truth is a non-partisan society of experts and scholars dedicated to exposing falsehoods and establishing truths about the events of 9/11. It maintains a web site at st911.org, where it archives its studies, documents, records and evidence.

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    Contact information:

    James H. Fetzer, Ph.D.
    Founder and Co-Chair
    Scholars for 9/11 Truth
    (218) 726-7269 (office)
    (218) 724-2706 (home)
    (218) 726-7119 (fax)
    http://www.st911.org
     
  2. marcdare

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    I'm not sure if it's fake or not, but perhaps you or the LORAX knows how to engage 2006 Navigation Override? JK ;)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jared2 @ May 30 2006, 04:08 PM) [snapback]262930[/snapback]</div>

    This just in from CNN:

    The World Trade Centers are still standing - the non-partisan society of experts, the Scholars for 9/11 Truth revealed today in a nationally telecasted special that a huge drape was placed over both towers making them completely invisible. In fact, when they removed the drape they found on top of the North Tower a mock-up of the lunar surface believed to be the location from which the lunar landings were filmed dispelling that myth the same group of World Renowned Nobel Prize and Pulitzer prized award winning scientists also claimed to be false.

    They are now focusing their interests on proving the world is indeed flat and Islam is a religion of peace and equal opportunity for women.

    We now return you to your previous scheduled broadcasts....
     
  4. jared2

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Greenfoot @ May 30 2006, 04:13 PM) [snapback]262936[/snapback]</div>
    I don't. And the Lorax speaks for the trees and knows very little about technology. Of all the posters here, I would ask dbermanmd. He knows everything. He is a doctor, a believer in G-D, and a devout pastafarian.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jared2 @ May 30 2006, 04:21 PM) [snapback]262945[/snapback]</div>
    I thought the Lorax was one of your experts on OBL, the Iraq War, all things Anti-American, and a Canadian aethiest (is that an oxymoron - I dont think so)?

    In terms of me - leave me to me if you don't mind. If you want to start senseless babble, so be it - when you ping the poo get ready to get ponged. You might have more luck in your former homeland where they could care less - except those serving in the Canadian Armed Services.

    I am a physician. I do believe in a "higher-being". But I am not a pastafarian - I have been doing Atkins for years :D My neighbor is a Rastafarian - is that close enough :rolleyes:

    But again, leave me to me.

    ps - i thought you were quitting this bb? you just took a sabbatical to arm yourself - I hope you don't pay for the info you are citing - or, you need to take that alluminum foil down from around your attic now :p they are just radiowaves, you get used to them once you lived here for a while - they dont really hurt that much, they kind of just interfere with independant thoughts,. an . d th e y a re c o m ing 4 u