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Jessica Lunsford Act Poll

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by daronspicher, Jun 2, 2006.

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  2. No, I don't want it and will explain why below.

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  1. daronspicher

    daronspicher Active Member

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    I just wonder if this law is supported by the people who hang out here?
     
  2. ghostofjk

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    Never heard of it. Would you please explain what it is, or provide a link to an explanation?
     
  3. geologyrox

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    As I understand it, it is a list of more stringent requirements for sexual predators and offenders to adhere to. Real sexual predators and rapists are about the most despicable group of people I can think of, and I don't have any objection to requiring them to let parents and other citizens know what they've done and where they live.

    I know this wasn't the question, but the process of naming a person a sexual predator or offender is sometimes questionable. In Florida, it is legal for a teenage boy to have sex with a 16 or 17 year old girl as long as it is consensual. When the girl is under 18, her PARENTS get to decide if the sex was consensual. I had a friend in high school who got into real trouble as a young dumb kid - I wonder now how they classify this, and if he's got to report his every move. Note that this musing is not against the Lunsford Act, it's just idle wonderings on how the process of being labeled a predator works.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(geologyrox @ Jun 2 2006, 08:15 PM) [snapback]264920[/snapback]</div>
    As long as the teenage boy is under 18 yes they can have consensual sex, however 18 & above it becomes statutory rape and the excuse she looked 18 when she is really between 11-17 yrs old or that she consented will not hold up in court. Then you can not live or be in or any closer than 1000 ft from a school, church or park. And here some even have to wear a GPS transmitter on their ankle..


    SEXUAL PREDATOR is defined as a person who has been convicted of, or pleaded guilty to, committing a sexually oriented offense and who is likely in the future to commit additional sexually oriented offenses.

    Offenders can be classified as sexual predators in one of the following ways:

    1. The offender is convicted of a sexually violent offense with a sexually violent

    predator specification, or

    2. The sentencing court, after holding a sexual predator hearing pursuant to

    O.R.C. 2950.09, determines that the offender is a sexual predator.

    Offenders designated as sexual predators are subject to registration/verification requirements for life unless a judge modifies or terminates the sexual predator designation. Sexual predators are subject to the neighbor/community notification provisions and the reporting requirements at 90 day intervals.

    HABITUAL SEX OFFENDER is defined as a person who has been convicted of, or pleaded guilty to, committing a sexually oriented offense, and who previously has been convicted of or pleaded guilty to one or more sexually oriented offenses.

    Offenders designated as habitual sex offenders are subject to registration/verification requirements annually for a period of 20 years after release. A sentencing judge may determine that a habitual sex offender is subject to neighbor/community notification.


    SEXUALLY ORIENTED OFFENDER is a person who has been convicted of, or pleaded guilty to, committing a sexually oriented offense, but who has not been designated as a sexual predator or habitual sex offender.

    Sexually oriented offenders are subject to the registration/verification requirements annually for a period of 10 years after release. These offenders are not subject to neighbor/community notification.
    These where taken from the inter net and ar from Ohio.

    Who is a sexual offender?
    Any person convicted of committing, attempting, conspiring or soliciting to commit any of the following violations (or any offense committed in this state which has been redesignated from a former statute number, or analogous offenses in another jurisdiction):

    F.S. 787.025 (Luring or enticing a child under the age of 12 into a structure, dwelling or conveyance for other than a lawful purpose);
    Any Chapter 794 offense;
    F.S. 796.03 (Procuring a person under age of 18 for prostitution);
    F.S. 800.04 (Lewd, lascivious, or indecent assault or act upon or in presence of child under the age of 16 years);
    F.S. 827.071 (Sexual performance by a child of less than 18 years of age);
    F.S. 847.0133 (Distribution of obscene materials to minor under the age of 18);
    F.S. 847.0135 (Computer pornography involving minor);
    F.S. 847.0145 (Selling or buying of minors for sexually explicit conduct).
    And who is released on or after October 1, 1997, from the sanction imposed by reason of conviction of his or her sexual offender offense.

    NOTE: Sexual predator designations apply to offenses committed from October 1, 1993, forward. In contrast, the sexual offender definition applies to any listed offense, committed on any date, for which an offender is being "released on or after October 1, 1997, from the sanction imposed" for the offense. "A sanction imposed" includes, but is not limited to, fine, probation, community control, parole, conditional release, control release, or incarceration. "Conviction" means the person has been determined guilty as a result of a plea or a trial, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld. (See F.S. 943.0435).

    A sexual predator will also meet the "sexual offender" definition. When dealing with a sexual predator, the sexual predator registration and notification obligations supersede the sexual offender procedures. (See F.S. 943.0435(5).)

    Source:Florida Department of Law Enforcement

    Crime Victims
    If you have been the victim of a crime where the offender is or has been incarcerated in a state penal system (Department of Corrections), a new service called VINE (Victim Information Notification Everyday), the Florida portion of which is funded by the Florida Department of Corrections will allow you to call or go on the internet at http://www.vinelink.com/index.jsp and register your information so you can be notified automatically when your offender is released from prison or changes locations. For Florida residents, choose Florida, then click FL_FLSTATE and search for a person. Once you have selected the correct person you can register your information.
     
  5. Schmika

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    My concern with these types of laws (Megan's, Lunsford's, and all of that ilk) is that it gives us a false sense of security. Our kids were safer when parents knew where they were, knew the other kids parents, knew who the "strange and dirty old men" were, didn't shack up with losers, etc.

    Parents are so disconnected now, all these laws do is up the punishment when the offender gets caught (we all "feel" better but the victim is still traumatized or DEAD)

    Nope, my vote is "Schmika's" law. Sexual offenses to a minor results in either life imprisonment OR death.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Schmika @ Jun 4 2006, 11:31 PM) [snapback]265807[/snapback]</div>
    It pains me to see the way parents have become, punishment = time out (sit on the couch for 10 min)
    or sent to their room (phone, tv, xbox & radio).. Hmm is this really punishment? "Schmika" has once again hit the perverbial nail on the head, The laws give the sheeple a false sence of security.. :huh: Everyday I hear 911 calls from parents needing a police officer to come to their home because their child will not brush their teeth, won't go to school, won't do their chores or the kid goes to a friends house but doesn't come on time and they call them in as missing.. :angry: This really is a waste of our time and slows our responce times to the important calls, so take the lead and be a parent & police your own kid..... ;)
     
  7. daronspicher

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    Let me understand your responses here.

    You vote no to the poll because you think the Jessica's Laws that are coming to many of the states are not strong enough?

    I agree with schmika... the stronger the sentencing on this stuff the better... I go for the Jessica laws because they are supposed to toughen the sentencing with higher minimums. I would love to see it possible to make many of these crimes available to the death penalty. There is no room in society for someone doing some things to a 6 year old girl.

    Do you think the Jessica law is not tough enough? Is that why the no votes here, or do you oppose tougher sentencing for these crimes?