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Jetta Diesel Wagon

Discussion in 'Other Cars' started by Jonnycat26, May 8, 2007.

  1. Jonnycat26

    Jonnycat26 New Member

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    It looks like the Jetta Diesel wagon is returning to our shores in January of 08... it's back, and it's apparently much, much better.

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=120684

    Highlights:
    • 50 State Clean
    • 140hp
    • Under 20K...
    And oh yeah... VW is expecting the EPA estimates for the 08 (Keep that year in mind) wagon to be 40/60.

    I think wow is about all the hypermilers can say to this.. :)
     
  2. livelychick

    livelychick Missin' My Prius

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ May 8 2007, 03:31 PM) [snapback]437682[/snapback]</div>
    I saw one last week. It was very good-looking, and I don't know how the guy had it. Anyway, good for VW.
     
  3. SomervillePrius

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    Looks like a cool car... It's need cleaner diesel right? Is that available in all states?
     
  4. Jonnycat26

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SomervillePrius @ May 8 2007, 03:49 PM) [snapback]437695[/snapback]</div>
    Yes, it uses the new USLD which is now mandatory... not as clean as a Prius, but that mileage, cargo capacity, speed, and so on is drool-worthy.
     
  5. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Saw the Jetta wagon. It looked great (even though it's supposed to be a Golf Wagon).

    Hopefully it's quieter cause you gotta admit, the current TDIs (even the PD versions) are still noisy.
     
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    It is still a Volkswagon.

    I wouldn't touch it.
     
  7. JSH

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ May 8 2007, 03:53 PM) [snapback]437698[/snapback]</div>
    USLD is not mandatory yet. Refineries must make at least 80% ULSD and 20% LSD but fuel stations do not have to carry ULSD unless they are in CARB states until December 2010. Alaska will not have any ULSD until December 2010 due to a special waver from the EPA. I have a 2003 TDI wagon and since ULSD was introduced in September 2006 I have found one station that had ULSD. It may vary by region or may just be a labeling thing but all the stations in my area still only carry LSD.

    The new TDI Jetta Wagon is sweet though, but it will kill the value on my 2003. The wagons have been selling for $3K to $5K more than the sedan because VW discontinued them in 2005. Where else can you get that much room and 50 mpg.
     
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    I read on a VW forum a post from a person who stood next to one running that the new VW diesels are unbelievably quiet.

    Since those MPG numbers reflect the new EPA rating system, I'm impressed. Toyota will need the rumored 08/09 Prius' higher mileage to compete.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Les Gas @ May 20 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]446337[/snapback]</div>
    I actually found the Pump Deuse to be louder than the TDI's, the TDI was a huge leap from the VW diesels I grew up around they removed the four s's of diesel - Smell(& Smoke), Shake, Sound, and Slow :p
    Can't wait to try one of these out when they arrive!
     
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    If it doesn't idle in traffic, I might be interested.
     
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    Diesel? Yuck!
     
  12. MarinJohn

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    we finally cleared the roads of those nasty Mercedes diesel wagons which were so trendy before SUVs and now this. Question: I am under the assumption that diesel is less refinery-intensive than gasoline, so why is diesel priced so high?
     
  13. JSH

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MarinJohn @ May 25 2007, 11:38 AM) [snapback]449820[/snapback]</div>
    You must be talking about the 80's wagons, because the new Mercedes diesels are SWEET. I've had the pleasure of driving both the C-Class and E-Class wagons in Germany and have routinely got 35mpg at 120 + mph.

    It is less refinery-intensive because it is a larger molecule and requires less carbon cracking. In my area, diesel is currently $2.53 / gallon compared to regular at $3.02 / gallon so I would say it's a deal at the moment. As someone that records and charts fuel prices, diesel changes seasonally. In my area, diesel is generally less than regular is the summer and more than premium in the winter.