June 8, 1967

I've made a little poem... a sort of riddle (hope it's not too cheesy)... to point the direction of knowledge of politics and the world that needs to be made known to everyone.

Anyone want to try and figure out what happened on this day?

Every line has a distinct significance in terms of national and global politics and conflict.

 

LOL, I'm not talking about Hezbollah... but I get the impression you know the details of the exact event. It does relate to today... they're as brutal today as they were on June 8, 1967.

Answer this question... when/how/where/why did Hezbollah start?

You're really deluding yourself by making things so simple and black/white.

There's a far deeper political history here... it's like a knot that's been tied up many thousands of times and almost impossible to untangle.

And do note that I am anti-Hezbollah... but am aware that they 'don't exist for no reason.' There's more to it than just sheer hatred.

Please also keep in mind that you've uncovered only the main fact from the poem/riddle ... I assure you, there's quite a bit more... and it's not just about Israel.

I'm no longer tolerant of any Israeli policies... but do not dare call me an anti-Semite. There's a reason why Jews speak out against Israel... obviously not in the current conflict (given the vast majority of Israelis in support of their government's response)... but in other conflicts.

 

-I heard the ship gave off all kinds of SOS alarms and distress signals.
-It was in international waters.

A brief review last night of the incident brought up some surviving sailors who knew that the attackers knew the ship was American... thus it was intentional.

Here's how it's beneficial for Israel (theory)... courtesy via a Lebanese friend... the Liberty would've been able to conduct surveillance of attrocities being committed at the time.


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Oh the Palestinians and Arabs have definitely done their fair share of crimes... suicide bombers... but I raise this issue and related ones because common opinion is largely anti-Arab/Palestinian and Pro-Israeli.

The goverment has done its fair share of things right... but there's stuff few hear about ~that I think goes against everything the founding fathers stood for.

 

http://www.usslibertyinquiry.com/

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jonnycat26 @ Aug 2 2006, 11:38 AM) [snapback]296301[/snapback]</div>

Thanks for the information... it's probably time I tell people about some of the other stuff I've been referring to.

About Israeli war policies and brutality... (and yes I am well aware of Palestinian suicide bombers going into cafes and restaurants and buses and whatnot... but I am also aware that everything looks favorably upon Israel's actions as justified... I believe that Israeli policies are unjustified... not in terms of defense... but rather in terms of response).

My Lebanese friend has a story... about some 21 years ago when Israel was occupying Lebanon. Apparently, Israel in the Arab world is well known for inflicting as much damage as possible... no matter how much Shimon Peres says they care about civilians... this is just not true.

At the time, my Lebanese friend's daughter was 9 months old. They were all in a bomb shelter under some building while Israel was bombing the buildings in the neighborhood (this was about a couple of decades ago). They (Isreali) stopped bombing... IE for about 15 minutes the activity halted. She went to the roof of the building, and Israeli jets started bombing the buildings again... she told me last night of how she thought her heart would explode and she would die... how the buildings rumble as the Israeli jets fly very low to the ground. She was able to walk away from the incident.

The tactic is pretty well known... they'll stop attacking for some time... then when people get out to help those in need... Israel bombs them.

Israel has a reputation for blowing up ambulance and medical supplies in the Palestinian conflict, and even the current one. I heard of Lebanese Red Cross vehicles being blown up by Israel in the current conflict.

You've probably heard about the rockets Hezbollah is using? The Katushas, upon striking, unleash pellets everywhere. It is a violation of human rights rules (I think the Geneva Convention, or something else) to use these kinds of weapons where there are known civilians. I've seen CNN bring this up about Hezbollah (rightfully... but I haven't heard any of the American news networks mention the Israeli weapons so far)... but did you know Israel too is committing human rights violations? The weapons they are using have some kind of white phopsphorous that aims to cause much more pain tho those who get the chemical on them. Here's the proof:

(WARNING: The following links contain graphic images and videos)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14181.htm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?con...&articleId=2787

This is the nature of the beast. I would be more suprised if guerillas and terrorist groups didn't form. As for the definition of terrorism... I argue that there is very little moral difference between someone who intentionally kills civilians and someone who KNOWS that their actions are indiscriminately killing many civilians.

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In regards to Israel's relation to the US... I urge you all to view the following video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7T4DhDLPrY...ch=fox%20israel

I also point at the book entitled "Those Who Dare to Speak Out."

 

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How else could they win a conflict/war in what... six days and against something like 3 goverments?

It's plain and simple... the Israeli army is brutal and does not have respect for rules of war.

 

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As far as the debate between you and I is concerned, your statement shows that I've won the debate. I take your ad hominem attack as victory... you're meaningless in this debate. I've made my position strong and clear, yet the only way you find of countering my arguments is to resort to tasteless attacks on personal character. Good riddance.

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Like the one where you try to avoid civilian deaths... but they don't reach that level... the international law is that you don't indiscriminately attack civilians... and to that you'll point at Hamas/Hezbollah... which I've already countered (the 'moral difference' argument).

 

After some more digging, I came across some more dirt (fromt the Fox News reports)...

Fox News reports:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7T4DhDLPrY...ch=fox%20israel

Lavon Affair:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

Pollard Incident:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard