just had the 5k service done but had 6oo miles over

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priussoris @ May 16 2007, 11:55 AM) [snapback]443555[/snapback]</div>

Ah. That's what you mean by Mid Missouri. My older daughter lives there. My wife is visiting there right now.
OT, of course.

Dave M.

 

To get back to your original question, no it made no difference. 600 miles is close enough. What the manufacturer is looking for is the owner that completely misses a service.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LongRun @ May 21 2007, 06:59 AM) [snapback]446541[/snapback]</div>

It wouldn't matter if you were 600 over or 6,000 over, your warranty can not be voided for merely failing to change your oil at the manufacturer's recommended interval. According to the provisions in the Magnuson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act, it is the OEM's responsibility to prove that increasing your oil change interval directly caused or affected the failure you are trying to resolve. OEM's pay or deny warranty claims based on the findings of failure analysis. To affect the vehicle warranty, the lubricant must be directly responsible for the failure. If the oil didn't cause the problem the warranty cannot be voided, regardless of brand or length of time in use.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ May 21 2007, 07:38 AM) [snapback]446567[/snapback]</div>

That is absolutly correct! It is the recommended change interval, not a set in stone must change or engine will fail interval. In most cases, you can go 7500 miles between oil changes, especially if you drive a lot of highway miles. If you do a lot of city driving, or put less than 5000 miles on in 6 months, then shorter intervals only because acids can accumulate in the oil when it sits. If you use pure synthetics, like Mobil 1, you can go even further between changes, just replace the filter at 5000, and top off the crankcase. As long as there is oil in the crankcase at the level indicated by the dipstick and it is still oil and not contaminated with other fluids, and no sludge buildup in the engine, then they will have a very hard time blaming oil as a cause of failure.

 

It's also the reason cars in europe for example have MUCH longer intervals between oil-changes. It's not that they have much better oil (compared to synthetic). Changing oil frequently is an American 'thing'

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swanny1172 @ May 21 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]446567[/snapback]</div>

So what do you do if you have an unrelated but critical failure and 2 separate dealers deny the service? Do you pay them and sue them afterwards or what?

What if it is a part that cannot be repaired by a non-prius tech?

Has anyone gone through this process?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priussoris @ May 16 2007, 01:55 PM) [snapback]443555[/snapback]</div>

Well I'll be damned. Small world. That's where I got my Prius. Don't recall a coupon for a free oil change though.

 

Sunshine Toyota in Battle Creek Michigan gives first one free oil changes also. I did ask them about checking the fasteners at the next change and they said it is included with the oil change and they do it every time. The techs were commenting on the looks since I just recently removed the cheap plastic hubcaps and was installing the chrome inserts when I picked it up.

 

A perfect example of a service stop generating new business and conversation. How much advertising money would have to be spent to achieve the same result? Change your oil often, here is a free oil change at 1,000mi or 3,000mi to get all of that nasty stuff out of the engine.... Toyota would be beat to death by dealers and consumers if they tried to introduce 10,000mi oil change intervals in the U.S.
When I was shopping for a Toyota I sat in the Camry and got the sense that it is a very conventional layout. I was not impressed with the interrior room, head room, not like the Prius that I eventually purchased from another dealer. I have not driven the Hybrid Camry yet, but I would like to. Until design changes are made to the conventional vehicles to bring them up to date, and light weight materials are used extensively to lower curb weight and improve fuel economy, I would not consider one. Fuel economy is King! Long live the King!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ystasino @ May 21 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]446977[/snapback]</div>

I guess I don't understand your question, because if it is a critical failure that is unrelated to the oil, what would be their basis for denying the warranty claim? Remember that the Magnusson-Moss Act is for the protection of the consumer, so the burden of proof is on the warrantor (Toyota).