Kalid Sheikh Mohammed

Personally, i think a military court would be better - less press, less of a chance for him to try to make himself out to be a martyr. Either way, he'll receive the death penalty - i doubt there is any American who wouldn't give it to him, regardless of what evidence was presented in his defense.

That being said, it has to make you wonder why he's confessing now, after 4 years in American custody (Captured on March 1, 2003)... If he is brought back to the US for trial in a civilian court, I'm sure his lawyer(s) will be pursuing every avenue possible to get this confession thrown out - statements made under duress, he was coerced into confessing for acts he didn't commit, whatever. Under intense media coverage, such claims by the defense would look extremely bad for our country - a closed military trial would be much, much better.

 

I disagree... it would look better if they saw how open our legal system is..... err should be. If he was coerced into a false confession and whatnot... that's something that should be known. I think people would show more respect by not having the trial done in a closed manner. We're a at a very low point - hardly anything could make us look much worse.

 

I would prefer to seem him tried on our legal system. While this would give him some chance to "preach" it would also show the rest of the world that 1) we care about having a legal system and 2) what a deranged and lonely man he is thus making him a lot less of a martyr (look at the 11th hijacker from 9/11. I can't even remember his name. I do remember that he was much less scary and more pitiful after seeing him in court)

I'm against the death penalty so I would prefer to see him rot away in solidary confinement somewhere, fast forgotten by the world, but as our legal system still allow for death penalty I'm sure he would be tried, convicted and put to death

As long as we have this administration I doubt they will try anyone anywhere where they don't already control the outcome. I think that hurts our international standing and that we sink down to the wrong level.

 

Keep him in Gitmo in isolation from others while the US military justice lawyers spend the next 10 years preparing a case against him. I don't think 'speedy trial' is part of the plan until he gets back here to the US.

Hopefully he'll die before anyone sees him in court.

If you bring him here, in 3 or 4 years the ACLU and activist liberal judges will have him out walking the street on technicalities of some sort and he'll be back to masterminding things.

Somehow 'Fair trial' never finds a need to be fair to the real evidence in the case and the victims of the crime... only fair to the individual and if someone forgot to read this guy his miranda before he was taken in... or if he wasn't given HBO and a bubble bath... forget that he did a bunch of horrible stuff.

I'm not sure if this guy is for real or if he's just trying to be an idiot by taking credit for this stuff... so I would just spend the time trying to authenticate what he says while he sits there right where he's at.

Or.. until Hillary or Hussein is elected president and lets them all go.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mirza @ Mar 15 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]406029[/snapback]</div>

.. and I bring you, President Billary Clinton.

 

I think Bush should admit that OBL wasn't the mastermind of either of the WTC attacks.

 

Rightards, one and all:

Torture is used on these prisoners. WHAT, exactly, do you find comforting, let alone newsworthy, in a full confession ?!??

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(EricGo @ Mar 15 2007, 12:06 PM) [snapback]406134[/snapback]</div>

Depends on what you plan to confess.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Mar 15 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]406142[/snapback]</div>

I assume it's your increasing numbers that just lost you control of both houses of Congress.

But seriously, is anyone else skeptical that he has now confessed to just about everything possible, ie., shoebomber and personally beheading Daniel Pearl?

I don't doubt for a minute he's guilty of some of this and needs to be in jail forever or executed, but the breadth of this confession sure sounds like torture at work.

 

I heard he also confessed to being on a grassy knoll 40+ years ago.

Seriously - he's held in a secret CIA prison network for an undislosed amount of time, with no rights, no hope, enduring who knows what, and I'm supposed to just accept this "confession" as true?

Before you jump all over this, I'm not commenting on WHAT was done or not done; I'm questioning the veracity of the product of unknown activities (re: the confession from likely torture) and the certainty that some people express: well if he said he did it, he must have.

Given the resources and time, anyone can be made to say anything. I'm less interested in his "confession" about what he did (which smacks very much of an attempt to boost popularity polls - "hey, look, we got the guy! Bin Laden was just a front, and we knew it all along"), and more in what information he can give/has given to help disable AQ. Not that I think that should be released (ala Geraldo's troop movement fiasco) - but I'm VERY skeptical of any "confession" coming out out of this...

 

Berman, i know we agreed at the beginning of this thread, but you're just undermining the position with every post...

Keep on topic. Don't go off on a rant at liberals. Don't go off on your "good versus evil" speech.

I agree with the other posters here that I'm rather skeptical of the confession - I still think he should be tried and, in all likelihood executed.

The secret CIA prisons, torture of individuals for information, etc, holding individuals without trial, etc. is what the bad guys always do in movies.

Now, under the guise of "National Security" we're doing the same - and everyone knows it. I have no doubt that there was a limited amount of it happening before, but now it's so widely publicized, and IMO looks extremely bad, both locally and internationally.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dbermanmd @ Mar 15 2007, 07:15 AM) [snapback]406011[/snapback]</div>

I think the guy is copping out to as many terrorist acts as possible to lull authorities into thinking they got their man. He knows he's done as far as outside activities.

Wildkow