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Local dealership is selling the gen 4 Prius Four Touring for $32.5k. Should I buy it at that price?

Discussion in 'Dealers & Pricing' started by TheChosenOne, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. TheChosenOne

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    I searched for the MSRP for the Four Touring online and every site said it was $30k but I notice they didn't add the Premium Convenience Package price and DELIVERY, PROCESSING & HANDLING FEE. So the PCP and
    DELIVERY, PROCESSING & HANDLING FEE adds up to $32.5k which is the true MSRP, which is what my dealership had it for. My dad was at the dealership and he called me about this and I had thought they were trying to rip us off but they were actually giving the MSRP price. I've been waiting for a new car for 10 years and have been wanting the 2016 Prius for a while. Should I buy it at that price or wait? Usually sales don't happen until the end of the year right? That's a long way from now.

     
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    Should you buy a car at MSRP? True car is already offering the 2016 4 touring w/ convenience for $1600 off MSRP so that is what I would use as a starting point, of course you may have to shop around other dealers.
     
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    Costco Auto Buying Program is selling at Invoice + usually 4-500 additional off.
     
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    we going to wait till end of year unless they come off on price a lot. Gas low, competition in great now. I think we could possible see some price incentives a little later by toyota.
     
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    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    Why buy when supply is low and demand high. That allows the dealer to set the price. Wait till you can dictate the terms.

    Or if you just have to have it...

    I say this as one who bought three first month of issue cars and got burned each time. One the parts supply for repairs didn't catch up with sales for 3 years. One rusted out. The third the transmission fell out of the car. A really weird feeling to look out the rear view mirror and see nuts and bolts bouncing along behind your car and knowing they just came from your car. None were Toyotas.
     
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    Yeah it's t

    Invoice price=price the dealership buys the cars? How would they make money then?
     
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    The dealership doesn't pay invoice. I bought my Subaru the same way... The car hadn't even been released yet, and I pre-ordered at Invoice.The Dealers have agreed to sell the cars at that price. There are no "Supply & Demand" Pricing issues.
     
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    maybe in the olden days, with incentive, holdbacks, manufacture to dealer rebates and a host of other hidden discounts the dealer obtains cars for far bellow invoice.
     
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    What would be a okay to good price to settle for? Gonna get the PCP btw.
     
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    Here's the corrected table. (copy and paste error resulted in 4 and 4 w/ATP at the same price).
    Again, invoice pricing is from Edmunds.com "Build and Price". The table does not include the $835 Delivery, Processing, and Handling (DPH) fee or Options and Accessories (other than the Advance Technology Package - ATP). In addition, the Toyota Dealer Advertising (TDA) fee (which varies by the region of the country you are in) is also considered part of the invoice cost by most dealers. The TDA is not part of this table. So at my dealership the regional advertising fee (which the dealer considers part of the car's invoice cost) was over $400. (bumping the "true" dealer invoice cost even higher)

    By my calculations the invoice for the 4 Touring with PCP, plus the $835 DPH is $30,299 (per Edmunds, the invoice on the PCP is $1537; so $27,927 + $1537 + $835+TDA). My calculated MSRP, plus DPH is $32,540 [$30,000 + $1705 (PCP) + $835], which is consistent with your calculation).

    According to THIS thread the PCP option may be hard to come by in the SF Bay area, perhaps requiring a special order (meaning less opportunity to negotiate the price down towards invoice). I have a NJ dealer quote that is close to invoice for a Prius 3 w/ATP.
     
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    Seems like the dealer is getting the better end of that deal


    iPad ?
     
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    ask them what the window sticker says. i would want at least $500. off.
     
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    JimN Let the games begin!

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    Chosen One, read through Car Buying Guide for New and Used Vehicles | CarBuyingTips.com then read through it again after getting quotes from local dealers. Salesmen can smell desperation so they'll hold firm on the price. Unless you need the car immediately wait for the inventory to arrive. Offer invoice or a bit less to see if anyone bites.
     
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    Just got a second quote Below dealer invoice.
     
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    how much?
     
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    28,262 for a 4T including Destination. $500 below Dealer Invoice. I was "First" in 2010 and paid full MSRP, but not happening this time.
     
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    nice! what the msrp?
     
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    30,835 including destination.

    I need to see if the upgraded JBL is worth it... 4 extra speakers in the same locations as the other 6... I don't really care about Park Assist or HUD
     
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    wow, that's excellent. (y) are you buying? edit: gotcha.