Looking for advice on 2012 Prius V ownership at high KM

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  1. benstpierre

    benstpierre Junior Member

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    We bought a 2012 Prius V for a great price through a private sale in 2016. We paid $12,500 CAD for it with 138,000 km on the odometer. Fast forward to 2023, and the car has had no issues at 293,000 km.

    We have had all maintenance done at the local Toyota dealer. All it has needed is fluid, filters, brakes, tires, two replacement oil pressure senders (it leaked twice in the last three years), and a sway bar link.

    About a week ago, the car started with a very rough idle one morning, which shook the car. This happened once and never again.

    This rough start scares me because I had a different Prius V back in 2020 (I tried to buy a second one since the first was so good). The second Prius V had this shaking start/misfire/rough idle a few days after I bought it, and it continued until I eventually sold it at a loss a month later. Before I sold that Prius at a significant loss, the dealer told me they thought it needed a new engine but were not sure.

    However, my trusty Prius V (the one we have owned since 2016) has only done this once and only for about 4 seconds. I have driven it maybe 50 times since and never experienced it again.

    That being said, what should I be watching out for as my car approaches the 300,000 km mark? Used car prices are very high right now. The Prius V is nearly impossible to buy, and we love our current one. I have heard they can reach very high mileage if well-maintained. I change the oil every 7,000 km and do pretty much whatever the dealer recommends. Some people have mentioned cleaning the EGR, throttle body, and intake manifold at high mileage. I've also heard that the 2012 model is more prone to head gasket failures.
     
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    You heard right. Best solution is a quality rebuilt engine.
     
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    watch the coolant and oil levels frequently. have you cleaned the egr circuit?
     
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    Your lucky.....
     
  5. benstpierre

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    I did not clean the EGR valve. Should I or is it too late? It seems to run perfectly.
     
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    it's never too late unless you're replacing the engine
     
  7. JohnPrius3005

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    Congratulations. You've had good value for the money you paid. Never fall in love with a car. Cars break and cost money to fix. And they keep breaking. Unless you are an expert Prius mechanic, or have a very close friend who is one, paying to fix problems will eat you alive. Prices are indeed insane. If you can, lease a new car, Prius or not. And sell your Prius into the insane market. The sooner you do it the more likely you are to avoid having to sell it with a known big problem. Good luck.
     
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    History repeats itself with gen3 engines. You have several choices:

    1. Spend $800 for a dealer intake and egr cleanup or dig into it yourself. Not a simple job. Will not fix your early stage head gasket leak.

    2. Change plugs, coils and maybe injectors when it starts throwing misfire codes. It does not seem to lose coolant and passes a coolant hydrocarbon test. The parts cannon is the common neighborhood mechanic reaction at this point. Not cheap, another $1,000 thrown at it. You get a month or longer reprieve before you realize this was a waste.

    3. Continue waiting until the shudders are every week or so. Soon it will rattle at stop signs. Shortly after it is obvious - the coolant is low. It has been months and maybe $1800 after the first warning. The writing is on the wall. Now the repair is most likely a used engine. Some will just do the head gasket. In many cases it will fail in the near future because too much time has past. The dealer will recommend a rebuilt engine to eliminate bad rings and they will clean everything like new but the cost scares you. At this point, a rebuilt engine is the right answer for three or more years of ownership.

    Or you find a quality shop now and have the engine torn down. The cylinder head is carefully inspected, cleaned and rebuilt by a machine shop. The quality repair shop installs a new gasket set. While they are doing it the egr cooler and intake manifold are thoroughly cleaned. The shop should have enough confidence to give you a year warranty. You don't get new rings so a trade within the next couple of years should be scheduled.

    Or you trade now and punt the issue. Don't sell privately, let a dealer auction get it.
     
    #8 rjparker, Mar 21, 2023 at 10:32 AM
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  9. Tim Jones

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    any prius (gen3) for sale has the HG issue..... many people out there buying used ones thinking they are getting a toy with great reliability but sady they might be getting one with the gasket already going bad.... stop leak in the car.... they just don't know it's a time bomb with a possible short fuse... huge deception on most of these being sold now..... get a ICE.............
     
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